The predominantly ludicrous lawmaker from Georgia did Biden a solid this weekend, telling Republicans the Democratic president is fiendishly attempting to make people’s lives better.

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    Is that why Obamacare is a public option? Oh wait, it’s not. In fact, Obamacare was an act that forced Americans to buy private health insurance, which I’m sure the private insurance companies secretly loved.

    RE: Living wage

    https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/21/health/wages-mortality-risk/index.html

    https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2801679?guestAccessKey=1cdec717-ea64-4ad2-b6e7-3b2ad0f24715

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      Obamacare is not a public option because they couldn’t get 100% of democrats to vote for that, because not all Democrats are neolibs or progressives. Some are just “less conservative” - see Manchin today.

      Like, he literally televized a meeting with the Republicans who pushed “death panels” to try to rally more support. He’s a President, not a king.

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          Again I’m not seeing what you’re missing.

          As a former reddit user who was a regular on /r/neoliberal I assure you I am well versed in it.

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            So then you’re aware that neoliberalism is a pro-capitalist idiology. Are you aware that socialism is, by definition, not pro-capitalist? Social democracy is the in-between point of socialism and capitalism, where the basic needs are covered, and the non-essentials are left to the free market to decide.

            Williamson is a social democrat. Obama/Hillary are not.

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              I am extremely pro-capitalist.

              One can be pro-capitalist and pro-social safety net. Sweden has greater wealth disparity than the US and uses the Nordic Model you’re trying to claim as socialist, and which is in fact a capitalist society. I am pro-union. So is Joe Biden. So are Hillary and Bill Clinton.

              Again not seeing your issue.

              If you gave some stoned suburban mom the Democrat platform and told her to scrapbook it, you’d have MaryAnn Williamson

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                The Nordic model is social democracy, and therefore pro-capitalism. No country that I know of has implemented socialism as described by self-described Marxist economist Richard Wolff (forcing all corporations to be owned by its workers, or as we call them, worker-owned co-ops).

                I am more socialist than Williamson is, but since social democracy is the furthest left idiology I can vote for, it is what I am going to vote for. If you disagree with Williamson’s platform as listed on the link I posted, then we can agree to disagree.

                And again on the “stoned suburban mom” point, it has nothing to do with policy, so I don’t care. Attacking someone based on their “vibes” or whatever is not a path of discussion I am interested in.

                If you are a capitalist who believes in a social safety net (social democracy), then cool. I got nothing wrong with that.

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                  It literally has to do with her policy tho. It’s just the same topics with dumber actual solutions than anyone else is proposing on the D side.

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                    We can agree to disagree then. I do not think her solutions are dumb, nor do I think standard Democrats support a social democracy (which is what I consider to be the absolute bare minimum in terms of policy). I also judge Democrats based on their voting record and not what their platform says.