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        You really think 1.1 million can feasibly leave a city three times as dense as LA in the middle of complete electrical loss, food and water shortages? In 24 hours?

        You know how many are about to die just getting out? How many will die because they couldn’t get out in time?

        Tens of thousands. The ones who do make it out will be homeless and destitute. More dead. Food and water situation in the south is going to be abysmal. More dead.

        And I would be utterly unsurprised if the city is never returned.

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          You think there’s anything that can be done? Get over yourself. It’s a war. Israel has to do what must be done, as swiftly as possible. You know that, based on what Hamas has said and done. You know when you’re pushing this pro-palestine narrative, you’re conveniently leaving out all these problems. You’re defending terrorists that shoot and burn babies.

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              You think what Hamas did to those Israeli children doesn’t deserve response? You don’t believe Hamas will work ceaselessly to destroy Israel? Israel is defending itself. It’s a war. Hamas made it one. Destroy them as swiftly as possible. Civilians will die, as happens in every war. Quit crying about it.

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            Any settler with citizenship elsewhere should leave, stolen land given back to Palestinians, massive reparations paid, and the current Israeli government dissolved and replaced with a single Palestine government fairly representing all.

            Barring that, at least stop genociding Palestinians, that would be a decent start.

            It’s not like they’re attacking Israel for no reason - they’ve had their home stolen, their people slaughtered, and what’s left of them concentrated into a small, extremely dense outdoor prison. Their violence is only a reflection of Israeli violence.

            That’s what could be done.

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              So you demand that Israel be destroyed. That’s what this is. Your pro-Palestine stance is nothing but an anti-zionist, anti-semitic position masquerading as love. Israel has the right to defend themselves. They have the weapons to defend themselves. They declared war on a terrorist organization, who committed acts you have yet to denounce. Brutalizing babies. Invading homes and murdering people, uploading it on their Facebook. You’re defending all of that. If that’s the case, I hope Israel is successful, and you haven’t given a single reason why I shouldn’t. There can be no one-state solution with Hamas next to them. There can be no two-state solution with Hamas next to them. You know this, but you don’t care, because you demand Israel be destroyed. There’s nothing to say to you then. I support Israel’s right to defend itself and that means destroying Hamas. If you think the nation with the strength to defend itself should just roll over and suicide, keep crying while Israel does what it must. I bet they’d love to go back to their homes and not have to worry about any of this, but they aren’t allowed to.

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          Are you excusing the terrorist organization that invaded Israel and brutalized babies, including shooting and burning them? That’s what you chose to get on the internet and defend?

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            Are you propagating fake news and zionist propaganda? Please provide an actual source for burned babies.

            I choose to defend the side of the colonialized not the apartheid state. But hey agree to disagree 👍

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              No, I won’t. You know it happened, that’s why you demand a source, pretending if I can’t produce one that you’re justified in your position. You’re not. You’re a liar, and an abuser, a defender and sympathizer of terrorists. Disgusting. If you insist someone be destroyed, I’d sooner it be the ones who refuse to live in peace. Good riddance.