• unfreeradical@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        No. Unions were never “voted into existence” through elections. It is not possible for a union to form due to government action. A union only forms from a conviction among workers to be organized, and to protect each other from those who would harm them.

        • Clent@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          The government can create laws to make unions ineffectual.

          I don’t have the time or patience to give a civic lesson on why voting in political elections is important for unionization.

          I suggest you explore the topic on your own if you seek to not be confidently incorrect in life.

          • unfreeradical@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 year ago

            The government does antagonize unions, but their strength comes from within them, not from elections.

            Again, unions were never “voted into existence”.

              • unfreeradical@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 year ago

                NLRB is not a union, nor a body that creates unions.

                Workers create unions, by choose to unite, to organize themselves toward shares interests.

                • Clent@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  I feel you’re arguing some pedantic point, possibly to dissuade voting at the political level or just because you enjoy the pedantry of this.

                  • unfreeradical@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    1 year ago

                    I am not arguing pedantically

                    Labor organization is the vehicle through which the working class advances.

                    Voting has very little meaningful effect on conditions.

                    I am not discouraging anyone from voting, only from believing from that voting is generally meaningful, or the cause of change.

                    As you conceded, states are generally antagonistic to the interests of workers. When workers believe that the state is their friend, workers lose.

                    Meaningful change happens from the ground up.