I drive the White car… Parked it in the lot for work, came out to this fuck off Nissan, next to me, Lined up parallel with my car, so i snapped a couple of pictures to show you how obnoxious Trucks have gotten, as if you didn’t already know.
It’s hard to argue when a monolith on wheels is in front of your face. :/
To play devils advocate for some trucks, in some situations they really are needed. I happen to live in an area with lots of dirt roads, and in the spring we have “mud season” where the roads just turn to soup. I have had it where the ruts are so deep (1-2 feet) that the only thing that could make it is a stupidly large truck.
That being said, the vast majority of people don’t live on or near dirt roads and never have a need for a truck this big.
The ruts are there because of stupidly large vehicles going down the muddy road. You need more capable, not bigger.
I would also argue that a Suzuki Jimny / Samurai is plenty to get across a muddy track.
Yeah it probably is, I’ve just never seen this car before
Wish the better car manufacturers put any effort into the small truck market, but apparently there just isn’t enough demand for compact trucks to make non-cheapo versions.
I know this sub refuses to believe it, but people do tow and use the beds for home maintenance and improvement.
Yes, but you also have people like my dad, father-in-law, and some of my neighbors who would be perfectly fine without the trucks and large SUVs they have and renting a truck once a year for the time they do need the truck.
It’s not just the big box stores that rent trucks, the small town hardware store next to us rents trucks and does free delivery within 3 days of an order and in a 10 mile radius of the store.
So then you get down to towing which could also potentially be solved by renting depending how often or what you’re towing. If you’re towing something that can’t be done by car and doing it often then it probably makes sense to have a large vehicle to do that. Otherwise sensible sized vehicle with towing capacity to tow the thing you need. Our little hatchback with a hitch can tow 2000 lbs.
During the pandemic my wife and I went down to one car and she thought it was going to be a nightmare. Three years in and we are just fine and we have saved a ton of money in gas, insurance, and maintenance costs. Once or twice a year we think it would be nice to have a second car for a specific instance, but not enough to deal with the headache of the additional costs of additional car again.
My point with that last paragraph is that collectively, we have become so ingrained into thinking that it has to be the way it is, that many people are afraid to even try something different. Even when it’s going to be greatly beneficial to them over time.
I never said there weren’t people wasting resources who purchase them. There are plenty of people who use them for the correct reasons. All of you are here yelling me how they can all just rent a truck each weekend but that’s just not a sane use case.
Who yelled that at you?
I tow ~7.5 times a year, and use the bed ~50 times a year.
I’m replacing my truck with a berliner soon. It can tow 2,000kg with is probably 49)59 of my bed usages. I’ll rent a truck the 7-8 times a year I tow plus any time the utility trailer is insufficient.
People do complete these tasks, but massively underestimate the number of times they complete them. I log all vehicle use, so I’ve got rel data to use instead of feelings. The trigger for replacing my truck is the need to fit a car seat, but once I did the math, the berliner will cost me less per year than my current vehicle even with adding some financing, and and order of magnitude less than going for a larger truck.
Edit: Berliner = sedan.
I have to tow about 8,500, 10-15 times a year and use the bed at least 6 or 7 times a year.
Plenty of people have very valid use cases.
Plenty of people do have valid use cases!
Even more people do not.
The question is how often. I think people vastly, vastly overestimate how many times they need a truck bed.
Only like 25% of pickup drivers actually tow more than once a year, and only slightly more actually use the bed.
Most of those people would be better off if they could just rent a truck a few times a year if they actually need to. Fairly few people who tow infrequently need a truck on short notice to e.g. tow an injured horse to the vet. And most of the rest would be better off with a smaller truck like they used to make.
People who actually use their trucks to the fullest exist, but are a fairly small minority. People wouldn’t really care about trucks if only people who really need them had them, and if there were a wider variety of things like kei trucks for light farm work.
Some large vehicles are necessary but not generally for personal use. The amount of time most people actually spend using the largeness of their vehicle is greatly outweighed by the time not using the largeness. Just rent a large vehicle when you need one, it’s cheaper in many ways.
I’m not renting a vehicle every other weekend, it’s a pain in the ass. I’m not concerned about cost. There are plenty of people who use their trucks. There are plenty of personal use cases.