I drive the White car… Parked it in the lot for work, came out to this fuck off Nissan, next to me, Lined up parallel with my car, so i snapped a couple of pictures to show you how obnoxious Trucks have gotten, as if you didn’t already know.
It’s hard to argue when a monolith on wheels is in front of your face. :/
I’ve always wondered what you need that big a car for, unless of course if you live somewhere in the wilderness of nomandsland.
Here in Europe it is rather rare to see a truck, which I guess makes sense as don’t have as wild and unsettled nature as the USA, and that our parking spots are too small for trucks.
Everyone knows that penis size is directly proportional to towing capacity
The cabin is likely larger than the bed or if not, off by foot. because of Redneck Luxury > Utility.
Can you imagine the engineers at Nissan, they must have had trouble releasing this vehicle because since day one draft to first production they were laughing at the ‘u like hotdog u like hamburg big fat americans’…and those americans, bought the truck. probably for over ~65k USD after the Lease and a comically sized 30 year car loan interest rate.
my car is a 1.4 Four Cylinder that has 7 gears? idk what hyaundai is doing giving smol car lambo gears but, i have no issues keeping up with traffic from rural, to highway, to road. And there are aftermarket roof racks should i need to “carry something big in my boot”
I just drive a subcompact hatchback and it’s perfect. Yeah I can’t haul a bunch of crap with several people in the car, but that’s a rare situation to even want. I can fit a fair bit in my trunk when I need to and 5 people when I need to. All with crazy high mpg for a non hybrid, an insane turn radius, and the ability to fit into tiny parking spaces.
And as someone reasonably tall, I fit fine. My wife was hesitant to get such a small car with such a tall wife, but I know a guy in the upper 6’ range who was totally comfortable driving a subcompact for years and loved the thing.
I’d prefer a bikable area with comprehensive public transit, but since I need a car I try to use as efficient as I can.
I’m seeing more and more American import trucks downtown. Seen one with a bunch of American-political stickers on it, including a confederate flag. It’s baffling how successfully America exports its culture to places where it isn’t welcome.
I don’t like the fact that bad history and terrible political views are considered American culture, but I guess I can’t exactly blame anyone for seeing it that way.
More like Kremlin propaganda culture.
What?
The Kremlin supports the political extremes on both sides in the US in order to cause division and dysfunction. They mostly do it on social media, which is where a lot of people get their info about the US.
The Kremlin wish they had that kind of influence. The political divide in America is entirely a home-grown issue. As long as you folk are fighting red vs blue, you’re not talking about the real issues.
Titans XDs are weird. They sit between 1/2 ton 3/4 ton. You’d get it if you need to tow a medium sized power boat, RV, or heavy/multiple cars but don’t want to upgrade to a true 3/4 ton.
Fucking CAFE standards… Basically, the larger the truck, the less aggressive the mandatory improvements in fuel economy. So, manufacturers have eliminated the old, compact trucks from the 90’s and early 2000’s, like the Ranger or the S10. Their modern equivalents are now as large as full-size trucks from that era. Fuel economy has worsened considerably, because CAFE standards pushed manufacturers to abandon their most efficient vehicles and focus on their least efficient.
Don’t get me wrong, I love big trucks. I’m hauling 9 people and a 2-ton trailer every evening, in a 2000’s suburban. But aside from that, an old S10-sized truck would be the perfect daily driver for me, and I can’t get one.
I’m really hoping the alpha wolf truck that’s supposed to hit production soon is a decent vehicle. 300ish mile range EV truck around the size of the old S10. Supposedly going to start in the low 30k range before the tax rebate.
Their web site has twice as many photos of the fancy shovels they plan to include with the truck as they have of the truck itself. Not exactly inspiring confidence here.
They have a working prototype they released footage of driving around and it’s supposed to go into production this year. Sorry you don’t like their marketing teams approach I guess?
The only thing I see from them right now is that they have a “marketing team.”. At least, they have someone who knows how to buy a domain name and produce 3d renders from a CAD file.
Prototypes are irrelevant. Anyone can produce a one-off vehicle in a garage.
The real question is whether they have the logistical chain established to support full-rate production. I’m seeing no indication of that.
“Anyone can produce a one-off vehicle in a garage.”
You waste words
I’ve been accused of worse.
Blame the chicken tax
To play devils advocate for some trucks, in some situations they really are needed. I happen to live in an area with lots of dirt roads, and in the spring we have “mud season” where the roads just turn to soup. I have had it where the ruts are so deep (1-2 feet) that the only thing that could make it is a stupidly large truck.
That being said, the vast majority of people don’t live on or near dirt roads and never have a need for a truck this big.
The ruts are there because of stupidly large vehicles going down the muddy road. You need more capable, not bigger.
I would also argue that a Suzuki Jimny / Samurai is plenty to get across a muddy track.
Yeah it probably is, I’ve just never seen this car before
Wish the better car manufacturers put any effort into the small truck market, but apparently there just isn’t enough demand for compact trucks to make non-cheapo versions.
I know this sub refuses to believe it, but people do tow and use the beds for home maintenance and improvement.
Yes, but you also have people like my dad, father-in-law, and some of my neighbors who would be perfectly fine without the trucks and large SUVs they have and renting a truck once a year for the time they do need the truck.
It’s not just the big box stores that rent trucks, the small town hardware store next to us rents trucks and does free delivery within 3 days of an order and in a 10 mile radius of the store.
So then you get down to towing which could also potentially be solved by renting depending how often or what you’re towing. If you’re towing something that can’t be done by car and doing it often then it probably makes sense to have a large vehicle to do that. Otherwise sensible sized vehicle with towing capacity to tow the thing you need. Our little hatchback with a hitch can tow 2000 lbs.
During the pandemic my wife and I went down to one car and she thought it was going to be a nightmare. Three years in and we are just fine and we have saved a ton of money in gas, insurance, and maintenance costs. Once or twice a year we think it would be nice to have a second car for a specific instance, but not enough to deal with the headache of the additional costs of additional car again.
My point with that last paragraph is that collectively, we have become so ingrained into thinking that it has to be the way it is, that many people are afraid to even try something different. Even when it’s going to be greatly beneficial to them over time.
I never said there weren’t people wasting resources who purchase them. There are plenty of people who use them for the correct reasons. All of you are here yelling me how they can all just rent a truck each weekend but that’s just not a sane use case.
Who yelled that at you?
I tow ~7.5 times a year, and use the bed ~50 times a year.
I’m replacing my truck with a berliner soon. It can tow 2,000kg with is probably 49)59 of my bed usages. I’ll rent a truck the 7-8 times a year I tow plus any time the utility trailer is insufficient.
People do complete these tasks, but massively underestimate the number of times they complete them. I log all vehicle use, so I’ve got rel data to use instead of feelings. The trigger for replacing my truck is the need to fit a car seat, but once I did the math, the berliner will cost me less per year than my current vehicle even with adding some financing, and and order of magnitude less than going for a larger truck.
Edit: Berliner = sedan.
I have to tow about 8,500, 10-15 times a year and use the bed at least 6 or 7 times a year.
Plenty of people have very valid use cases.
Plenty of people do have valid use cases!
Even more people do not.
The question is how often. I think people vastly, vastly overestimate how many times they need a truck bed.
Some large vehicles are necessary but not generally for personal use. The amount of time most people actually spend using the largeness of their vehicle is greatly outweighed by the time not using the largeness. Just rent a large vehicle when you need one, it’s cheaper in many ways.
I’m not renting a vehicle every other weekend, it’s a pain in the ass. I’m not concerned about cost. There are plenty of people who use their trucks. There are plenty of personal use cases.
Only like 25% of pickup drivers actually tow more than once a year, and only slightly more actually use the bed.
Most of those people would be better off if they could just rent a truck a few times a year if they actually need to. Fairly few people who tow infrequently need a truck on short notice to e.g. tow an injured horse to the vet. And most of the rest would be better off with a smaller truck like they used to make.
People who actually use their trucks to the fullest exist, but are a fairly small minority. People wouldn’t really care about trucks if only people who really need them had them, and if there were a wider variety of things like kei trucks for light farm work.
What do you want us to say? “You’re one of the good ones?” C’mon, man, don’t make me break Rule 1.
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Fuck your car.
L O L
I don’t really agree, cars are for moving people around. People can move themselves around. Trucks are for moving things, they’re tools. I have a truck, I need it. Not all the time, but enough of the time that I have one. It doesn’t make sense for me to have 2 cars so I just drive it. Although I do agree they’re getting too fucking big. I’ve got an older heavy duty pickup truck and the thing is the size of a new “small” pickup, it’s a bit absurd.
That’s funny because I think commuter cars could maybe be replaced, but not trucks. How else do you haul supplies and materials for craft, industry, and agriculture? There’s sadly no viable alternative.
If commuter cars can be replaced then so can commuter trucks.
Commuting in a truck is a bit mental. Who has the gas money for that?
Many Texans.
Commuting in a large vehicle is a status symbol in many subcultures within the US.
Also gas is too cheap
Both cars and trucks need to exist for some cases, like you need cars to get around in rural areas and farmers need trucks to move around and haul shit. The problem is using either where they don’t fit. You shouldn’t need a car to get around a big city and you certainly shouldn’t be using a truck to do so.
As a tradesman for over a decade, I much prefer working out of a van. They are a bit more effecient on average. They haul stuff really well and larger ones can even be used as a small workshop/well organized storage. Their decks are lower and easier to load and they accomadate large cargo without the need for tarps to water proof. Strapping stuff down is easy too as the walls can help. Many vans these days can be bought from the dealer ready to tow. For bigger jobs cube vans/trucks are also an excellent option.
Technically true, but I meant, like, there’s no alternative to a motor vehicle. As for van vs truck vs car, I’m just saying it seems easier to replace a commuter vehicle with alternative transport than it is to replace a hauling vehicle with alternative transport.
