cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/27368980

I am curious if the majority of leftist people don’t actually want children haha. There doesn’t seem to be any studies about it, but my convos with leftists is that most don’t seem to want to have children either for the uncertainty of the future or because they are too expensive or because it wouldn’t give them too much time to organize or whatever other reason that I forgot about.

I personally lean on not having children because I have been laid off of several jobs and having someone financially dependent to me scares the shit out of me and would put my stress levels through the roof.

  • SybilVane@lemmy.ca
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    17 days ago

    Want them, can’t afford them. Not in terms of money, living space (which money would solve), or time (which is required to make money). I already feel like I’m drowning on my own, I don’t want to also fail my children.

    Plus the world is a shitty place.

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    18 days ago

    I don’t have a solid yes/no stance personally but at my age I don’t think it’s going to happen. My conditions for yes are having a reliable partner who wants children. So far I’ve struggled to find any sort of partner, let alone a reliable one who wants children.

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    16 days ago

    I don’t have kids because I’ve never especially liked them, and I think it’s morally wrong to have kids if you don’t like or want them.

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        15 days ago

        In my experience, many people who don’t like or want kids choose to have them for other reasons: family pressure, trying to improve a romantic relationship, feeling like it’s the next step in life, etc. The children born as a result spend the rest of their lives with parents who don’t or can’t meet their emotional and/or physical needs. To me, that’s deeply morally wrong.

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    16 days ago

    People that don’t want children usually think of the potential wellbeing of a future human. People that do want children, usually do so for selfish reasons. It makes sense people who think of environment or other people are more lefties.

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      16 days ago

      I agree, but in a way everything we do is for selfish reasons.
      An avg of 2.1 children can be had per couple and it will not grow the population.
      I say that is OK.

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        16 days ago

        Population growth is not my main concern. If I have to live in a filthy city, work full-time and barely have money to support myself, I don’t see why I should consider having a child.

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    17 days ago

    I’m a communist and don’t want children, I guess for related reasons insofar as I don’t think there’s any such thing as a “good parent” and that raising children in an atomised nuclear family structure will inevitably harm them. I know people will continue to have kids regardless, but I don’t feel comfortable being responsible for a child’s trauma. I also don’t think I’d be interested in having children even if we only consider selfish reasons; it sounds like a lot of stress and financial drain.

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    16 days ago

    I live in a country that according to a study is the nr 1 in outsourcing their children.
    Nanny, babysits, daycare, etc… Parents have less and less time to raise them in our performance-work-oriented societies.
    Even if they could and have the time, it is also known they only have a minor part of shaping them.
    Outside factors combined, school, their friends and worse of all social media have a bigger impact.
    And I see those ‘parents’ all the time, proud of how they’re raising a child while both having successful carreers.
    These people wake their kids and see them again when they put them to bed.
    On top of that I glanced over an article recently (since I have no kids) about those children that get little attention from their parents.
    A lot of mental problems later and even a substantial rise in percentage of psychopats.

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    15 days ago

    My partner and I struggled with whether it was moral to have kids considering the future that we’re facing. But I guess emotion won out over logic. I wouldn’t judge anyone for not having kids, but I love mine more than I thought I could love anyone or anything.

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    I’ve known since I was like 13 that I would never be stable enough in life to feel good about having children. Not even because I knew I would be too tired from working so much to devote myself to a child. Also, just the financial strain of another human would never ever be feasible.

    Also the fact that children have no rights and can just be permanently fucked up by their parents feels like choosing to rip a person away from Africa at tge height of slavery. Just my personal opinion.

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    17 days ago

    Bringing more people into this world where they will suffer is certainly unethical, but at the same time I do understand the argument that parental beliefs have one of the highest impacts of determining child beliefs, so leftists having children could increase the influence of leftism in the world. Right now, I’m not mature enough to be a good parent, but if I ever am, I might adopt.

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    15 days ago

    I think most people that don’t want kids might change their opinion if their material or romantic circumstances improve?

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    15 days ago

    I’m a leftist and I would like to have children, but can’t. I’m intersex and the “plumbing” simply doesn’t work.

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    17 days ago

    I am 22 and at the moment I don’t mind having 1 in a fewer years, but definitely not gonna be in the next 4 years, since I feel the world gonna change a lot.