cross-posted from: https://quokk.au/post/3561775
American Airlines plane engine catches fire after landing in Denver
Ok I’ll buy an airbus next time
Does airbus kill whistleblowers?
Glad everyone survived. I’m pretty sure it’s mandatory in Europe (and Canada?) that all airliners have built-in engine fire extinguisher bottles. These are routed inside the engine itself and there’s a switch inside the cockpit that activates them. The switch shuts off fuel to the engine and sprays it. If US airliners are flying around with no means of combatting an engine fire in flight (implied here since they had to wait for outside help) then that is very concerning.
(Just don’t fly, atleast in western europe the Bus / Train system mostly makes short haul flights obsolete)
whats is short to you?
I’d say anything under 15h driving equivalent. In my case that represents 25 countries to choose from lol.
An engine fire isn’t necessarily an issue of the aircraft itself. Engines are quite disconnected from the aircraft they are propelling, many aircraft do have multiple engine options, and jet engines are often not even owned by the aircraft’s owner, but leased directly from the engine manufacturer in a separate contract, because they are so damn expensive.
And it turns out in this case, the plane is an 737-800 which uses engines from CFM International (partly French, partly US) specifically CFM56 series engines. Engines in this series are used by Boeing, Airbus and McDonnel Douglas. So don’t buy American and you can still end up with an engine from the same manufacturer and series.
A plane also has a very long life and is used as much as possible during that life. This means the actual production is only a small part of the life of the plane and a lot happens after that. So until it’s investigated and clear what the issue was, blaming the manufacturer of the plane seems especially far fetched. The problem could have been with the manufacturer of the engine, it could have been a mistake in maintenance or bad replacement/refurbished part, it could be lack of maintenance, improper maintenance procedures. It could als have been something ingested into the engine, which happens all the time. The plane in question has been flying perfectly fine for over 10 years, so I doubt Boeing is at fault in this one.
It’s all well and good to jump on the hype train of blaming Boeing and the US for everything. But these sorts of things happen all the time with all types of airplanes, it’s a normal part of life. Boeing has made some terrible mistakes, but not all bad things that happen to Boeing planes are their fault.
And it’s easily not anyone’s direct fault. You can have a good plane model, spotless maintenance, and something still fails. This plane kept things intact long enough to divert and land safely. That’s the requirement that is absolute, anything more is extra.
It really is a third world country with a Gucci belt.
You want to fly EU and also not find yourself on a flight dependent on our traffic control. The Fitzgerald is going down.
If the engines on fire why are they all out on the wing??
Because one of the emergency exits is over the wing? I guess the engine fire is on the other side, though.
Everyone wants to see and make a video.
A only European plane is not for tomorrow. There are plenty of part that European don’t manufacture in the A320 like electronic and engine.
And the engine in the stories is half American Half french.
Boycotting aircraft will be a harder process. Airbus is in a strong position as Boeing struggle with QA and production rate. Every body is looking to buy a A320. They buy a Boeing because Airbus have such a waiting list that your plane won’t be delivered before 2030.
So maybe let just ask Airbus or the Europeans Commission to invest and plan for a 100% European part plane.
