• cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de
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    24 hours ago

    Just for anyone who still holds out hope: NATO as we have known it is over. The US won’t come to the defense of the other members if they are attacked. It’s time to move on.

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      22 hours ago

      This was Putin’s goal. Destabilize NATO. Crumbling US alliances is just the cherry on top.

      We are losing long friends and close allies.

      All because a plurality of voters want to feel powerful.

      Even if it’s for a brief moment.

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    It seems ever less likely the US will participate in the NATO summit in The Hague. Too bad for Mark, though people living and working there will probably not mind.

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      Pretty sure that if a US military person crosses the threshold of the Hague they catch on fire

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      23 hours ago

      Looking more and more likely to see US folks in the Hague for vastly different reasons in the future…

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    what even is their goal? just yet i refuse to believe there is none and that theyre just dumb, because theyre obviously not.

    america first for every price? but would it not be better to trade with us and have us as allies versus china and russia? we would spend our money and work together so its all more efficient.

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      The voters are stupid, all they see is “america first fuck yeah!” They don’t understand or care about the consequences

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      I strongly disagree. They are actually very dumb and there is no grand strategy at play here. While everyone tries to understand the sense behind the erratic decisions, there really is not much to understand at all. It’s as simple as “we don’t want to spend money on European defense anymore”, so all activities related to that are stopped, without any regard to the consequences.

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        They don’t need to be particularly smart, each to each, in order to both want to and be capable of annexing somewhere.