transGENIC - meaning they were able to modify cells in mice to more resemble human to be able to develop new medications that were difficult to develop, but I guess anything that has word “trans” is woke. The transportation secretary should be on a lookout.
I’m kind of torn on this one. I’ve seen the “transgenic” explanation in several other places, and as I normally do, my initial reaction was “Ha ha, stupid Trump.” (And also a deep underlying sadness that doesn’t ever really go away)
But I clicked the link on this post. They listed the grants referenced in their $8 million total. One did mention transgenic mice, though others could use transgenic mice and not specifically mention it. But if you click through to the grant proposals (which I assume DOGE did not write), every entry does indeed involve research on the effects of gender-affirming medication, even the one that mentions transgenic mice. To be clear, the other claim from media reports is also true - that these are grants for cancer and HIV research. But specifically, for things like the interaction between HIV vaccines and gender affirming meds.
To make my position clear, I support these studies. I think it’s important to study how asthma and cancer medications may affect the trans population differently than those not on gender-affirming meds. And you never know what additional discoveries will be made along the way. But I think that the response that MAGA got confused about transgender vs transgenic is disingenuous at best, if the information from this link is true (who knows if the 8 mill is the full contract or remaining values, etc).
I think diversity, equity, and inclusion are exactly what we need, and historically, a lot of harm has been caused by treating white male as default in medical studies. It is a truly terrible thing that they are canceling studies like these. But I think we need to recognize that when they say things like, Biden spent 8 million dollars trying to make mice transgender, what we’re dealing with is bait. They want us fighting over whether or not we made mice transgender. The point here is that this is yet another example of this Federal government usurping the power of the purse without being checked. They will always try to use small lies to hide the Big Lie.
Thanks for sharing this thought. I had the same feelings and was disappointed to see that many of us are falling into the same headline clickbait trap that we accuse the other side of. Thankfully, you’re getting plenty of upvotes.
Yes, the word transgenic was used in the description of the one of the funded studies. However that same cited study is intentionally attempting to study the effects of androgen treatment on reproductive health for the benefit of transgender individuals.
I do not condone this ridiculous writing from an official Whitehouse press release. I also fully approve of every single study listed. But the “haha they’re dumb” rhetoric is not helpful. What’s helpful is encouraging people to demand sources, think critically, and hold authority figures accountable when they lie.
… transgenic mice to test whether male-level androgens … are necessary and/or sufficient for androgen inhibition of in vivo LH pulse parameters
They used the transgenic mice to test if hrt works. And the others have nothing to do with transgenic mice, most are explicitly about hrt and one is testing if asthma differences in sex is actually caused by hormones.
Thanks for the hint. Also CNN added context to their article.
The morning after Trump’s speech, the White House provided a list of $8.3 million in federal grants to health studies that involve mice receiving treatments that can be used in gender-affirming health care. The White House list made clear what Trump, in the speech, did not: The studies were meant to figure out how these treatments might affect the health of humans who take them, not for the purpose of making mice transgender.
Oh my god, I looked at the Rolling Stone article and this is the real explanation? I expect them to be stupid, but this is the basis for their talking point?
I am accurately using the word “literally,” when I say I literally can’t keep up with how stupid they are. I genuinely lowered my expectations as far as I could, and it wasn’t low enough.
transGENIC - meaning they were able to modify cells in mice to more resemble human to be able to develop new medications that were difficult to develop, but I guess anything that has word “trans” is woke. The transportation secretary should be on a lookout.
I’m kind of torn on this one. I’ve seen the “transgenic” explanation in several other places, and as I normally do, my initial reaction was “Ha ha, stupid Trump.” (And also a deep underlying sadness that doesn’t ever really go away)
But I clicked the link on this post. They listed the grants referenced in their $8 million total. One did mention transgenic mice, though others could use transgenic mice and not specifically mention it. But if you click through to the grant proposals (which I assume DOGE did not write), every entry does indeed involve research on the effects of gender-affirming medication, even the one that mentions transgenic mice. To be clear, the other claim from media reports is also true - that these are grants for cancer and HIV research. But specifically, for things like the interaction between HIV vaccines and gender affirming meds.
To make my position clear, I support these studies. I think it’s important to study how asthma and cancer medications may affect the trans population differently than those not on gender-affirming meds. And you never know what additional discoveries will be made along the way. But I think that the response that MAGA got confused about transgender vs transgenic is disingenuous at best, if the information from this link is true (who knows if the 8 mill is the full contract or remaining values, etc).
I think diversity, equity, and inclusion are exactly what we need, and historically, a lot of harm has been caused by treating white male as default in medical studies. It is a truly terrible thing that they are canceling studies like these. But I think we need to recognize that when they say things like, Biden spent 8 million dollars trying to make mice transgender, what we’re dealing with is bait. They want us fighting over whether or not we made mice transgender. The point here is that this is yet another example of this Federal government usurping the power of the purse without being checked. They will always try to use small lies to hide the Big Lie.
Thanks for sharing this thought. I had the same feelings and was disappointed to see that many of us are falling into the same headline clickbait trap that we accuse the other side of. Thankfully, you’re getting plenty of upvotes.
Yes, the word transgenic was used in the description of the one of the funded studies. However that same cited study is intentionally attempting to study the effects of androgen treatment on reproductive health for the benefit of transgender individuals.
I do not condone this ridiculous writing from an official Whitehouse press release. I also fully approve of every single study listed. But the “haha they’re dumb” rhetoric is not helpful. What’s helpful is encouraging people to demand sources, think critically, and hold authority figures accountable when they lie.
They used the transgenic mice to test if hrt works. And the others have nothing to do with transgenic mice, most are explicitly about hrt and one is testing if asthma differences in sex is actually caused by hormones.
Thanks for the hint. Also CNN added context to their article.
Oh my god, I looked at the Rolling Stone article and this is the real explanation? I expect them to be stupid, but this is the basis for their talking point?
I am accurately using the word “literally,” when I say I literally can’t keep up with how stupid they are. I genuinely lowered my expectations as far as I could, and it wasn’t low enough.
More than meets the eye!
Yeah, they want to make genes trans now. The woke are out of control!