• gerryflap@feddit.nl
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    I mean, if they’d also improve the ability to get healthy food with those stamps it’s not necessarily bad. But judging by who’s saying it I somehow doubt that it’s done with good intentions.

    How do those food stamps work anyways? Can you use them like money? I’m not American so it’s a foreign concept yo me.

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      How do those food stamps work anyways? Can you use them like money? I’m not American so it’s a foreign concept yo me.

      You get an EBT debit card with an amount of money based on some calculations that can only be spent on certain things (in the case of SNAP aka food stamps, you can only spend that balance on food). WIC is another subsidized food program that sometimes gets included when talking about “food stamps” targeting people with small children, which has a more restrictive list on what you can buy with it.

      Some of the guidelines have been painfully dumb, even if there was an intended logic to them - like “no hot food” where the goal was to disallow restaurant purchases and purchasing pre-cooked meals because they are generally a less efficient use of the funds, but led to dumb shit like Subway noting that they sell subs cold and so could hypothetically still sell, then just offer to toast the sub post-sale so that the division was meaningless.

      Then you have the abuses of the program that really do need fixed, like stores that are well known to be willing to buy certain stock from just anyone, at a stupidly low price. The idea being that you go to Walmart or wherever and buy up a bunch of product that you can buy on SNAP, take it to the store and resell it at a massive loss to launder your SNAP funds into regular cash. In my area it was certain convenience stores that were known to buy certain brands of soda in cases of cans for much less than they could be bought through legitimate channels as a way of laundering SNAP funds.

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      Given how many Americans are in food deserts where it’s close to impossible to get anything but junk food, it’s definitely an absolutely moronic move.
      First you have to make sure that fresh and healthy food is available for everyone then you make this kind of move.
      Not the other way around…

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        If you want to know the quality of US education before current cuts…

        I learned about food deserts in 7th grade. The teacher called it food desserts and went into great detail about how it meant places where you can only find desserts to eat like ice cream shops. It’s a real problem for these areas because they don’t have real food to eat and everyone is obese from only eating desserts.

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          People really just don’t understand how fucked the U.S education system is. The idiots all had kids, and some of those kids became teachers, who continue to pass down their culture of ignorance. Meanwhile, teaching is such a dogshit job that nobody in the U.S. wants to do it, so hiring standards have gotten lower and lower.

          It’s like a perfect storm taking us to a situation where people at a 7th grade reading level are teaching U.S. History to 10th graders.

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          /fellating_pikachu_meme

          Good lord. How in the hell does that thinking even survive a first pass at thinking about how a fru-fru place like an ice cream shop could survive while the people living there wouldn’t be able to get to a place with ‘real food’ on offer?

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            The implication was more we were supposed to be judging them for being fat and only wanting to eat desserts, ruining the options for everyone else. Free market giving them what they want.

            This kind of thing is how millions of people can think they are well informed and the blame is on some other demographic. While not knowing anything about the subject.

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        Yeah agreed. It’s always insane to me to hear how all that works in the US. Here I’ve always had a supermarket at <10 min by bike, and those always have fresh fruit and vegetables. A society where unhealthy food is way easier and cheaper to get is a recipe for disaster

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      I’m somebody who has food stamps. It’s like a debit card that the government will load with money monthly. You can only use it to purchase food items. If your total bill at the store is $40, $20 of food and $20 of other household goods, then paying with the food stamps card will pay for the $20 of food. You’ll still have to pay the $20 of other goods with your own money.