Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called for the creation of a unified European military force, saying the continent must be self-reliant amid a persistent threat from Russia and uncertainty about U.S. support – a situation he described as “this new reality.”
We need three things to build real military power in Europe.
- France must put its nuclear capabilities at the service of the whole.
- France must put its permanent seat at the UN at the service of the whole
- The whole must create a power that is sufficiently centralised and at the same time representative of the European people and their interests.
If you see this as viable, this option is viable. I choose to believe that all of this is an opportunity to make it happen.
- goes against anti proliferation treaties, and 2., while desirable, is not directly related to the matter at hand.
Some people would rather bow to fucking USA administration than spend tax dollars (or euros) on military. Are you German by any chance?
- The treaty recognizes France as a nuclear power, a European army with France inside could easily argue as “heir” of that right.
- A first -order power, with true military intervention capacity in a global way, has to be able to block decisions at the UN, another thing is to remain in second. That is matter in hand, play with the elderly
Nooooo it should be the other way around!!! Dissolve armed forces because we don’t have wars anymore!!!
Ukraine:
could y’all for me do at minimum something?
rest of world:
mmmaybeee…
Probably going to need a Eurasian army to take on Oceania and Eastasia.
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Donald Trump is going to see this as a direct threat to national security and will preemptively attack the netherlands
Ok, but is that not what Nato is meant to be?
NATO is mainly a tool of US power projection in Europe cosplaying as a defensive alliance against Russia.
Now with a Russian puppet sitting in the White House another time (and possibly for good), this concept isn’t worth the paper the North Atlantic Treaty is written on.
How would you implement a defensive alliance against russia without say US troops in the Baltic nations?
By the fucking EU getting its shit together. But unfortunately, the EU is infiltrated by a bunch of corrupt “transatlanticist” US bootlickers, who have been stalling the EU becoming a power that could hold its own without the US.
Don’t forget the russian asslickers
They, at least so far, haven’t had as much power as the US asslickers, except in a handful of countries. Also they have been generally understood as being a problem, while the US bootlickers have been largely applauded and celebrated.
It just a nice way of saying we should distance from US.
A trick for politicians to talk about it trough media and countries without talking about US, like who else think this…. It would be Germany and France that would have to be the prime drive so is really for political persons there.
I’m from Denmark so really to small to do anything, but I think we would be ready to take quite a big step away from US towards Germany. The negative impact of the last few weeks are hard to explain but I think we lost trust in the US as a people not just a few persons.Poland needs to give Germany a couple of kicks in the arse, “go, rearm, no we don’t mind you having a strong military we mind you not having one let’s go kick Russian asses”. France has been anti-atlanticist for basically ever, they’re the ones constantly pushing for European strategic autonomy. I believe in Poland. They’re Slavs, they can get a rusty motor running.
