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    I saw this tweet a while ago that was like “Piracy lore is crazy, there’s only like 2 people who know how to crack Denuvo. One of them is a psychotic transphobe who speaks like a JRPG villain, and the other only cracks football games”

    I’m paraphrasing, but honestly it’s so accurate…

    Edit: For anyone confused, here is a great writeup on the history of Denuvo cracking, and Empresses lunacy

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      Only two people willing to crack denuvo games. And publicise their cracks.

      Usually talent like that leads to well paying jobs, well paying jobs usually lead to wanting to not go to prison.

      That doesn’t mean people don’t have the skill, it means they’re not willing to use it, when someone else is already taking the heat

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          Illegal? Probably not, so long as you were careful about not hosting any of their code/data

          Would doing it publicly end with you getting buried in lawsuits? It might. Anyone can sue for any reason, and copyright holders love making examples of people

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      Aside from balking at the audacity of using a platform for piracy as her own personal blog, the community was quick to knock her down a peg.

      So I guess you read them all? The great thinkers? To verify how you are above and beyond their thinking? Do you understand how utterly arrogant this post makes you? I will tell you why. To put yourself above thinkers like Arthur Schopenhauer, Adam Smith, John Locke, Charles-Louis de Secondat, Immanuel Kant, Thomas Hobbes, Baruch Spinoza, Francisco de Vitoria, Friedrich Nietzsche and so many others. Human beings who have helped shape the foundation of the world we live in today. I am talking about the most basic of basic stuff we now take for granted like property, human rights, democratic governance and rule of law. Without these ideas and those who dedicated their lives to refine them, our world could not be like it is today.

      This was a strong argument, but as someone else jokingly pointed out:

      removed shut up, they pirated rdr2

      Which, to be fair, Hobbes and Kant never did.

      I’m fucking dead 😂

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      psychotic transphobe who speaks like a JRPG villain

      Crab Juice

      only cracks football games

      Mountain Dew

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      I knew about Empress, of course, because how could I not? But I’ve not been in the game piracy community for years, and I had no idea she was this… Unstable.

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      The other cracks football games? You mean like FIFA? Because I haven’t seen any cracks of those…

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      Holy smokes. Got sucked into that one. So is she still the only one that can crack Denuvo? You mentioned 2, is the other not very active or something?

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    As crazy as that makes Empress sound, I’m definitely willing to look past this kinda stuff because it’s best not to bite the hand that might feed you.

    Also, we definitely need more crackers (especially of the d€nuvo kind) to step up and train the next generation of crackers instead of just ranting online about their torrents being removed from popular sites.

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      Excusing crazy people doing crazy things cause they give you free stuff is the shittiest take I’ve seen on lemmy

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            I’m just saying getting stuff from Empress is no worse than getting it from a corporation. She’s going to be equally crazy whether you download her cracks or not, at least she’s not exploiting child labor or destroying the environment in the process.

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              Corporations aren’t going to fill their software with crypto mining malware and when exposed go torched earth trying to put the blame on their accusers.

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                Exactly. I’d rather take the unhinged rants and malware than the destruction of the planet and perversion of human society, thank you very much

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        I personally believe that, since piracy is already illegal in the developed world, and since I live in a politically divided first world country, that we don’t need to bring politics and stuff into this.

        Besides, we don’t have many better options when it comes to d€nuvo than to accept the people who crack games with modern variations of it. I especially don’t since I’m not smart enough to crack it and also since I go for pre-cracked games for the convenience of not having to apply the cracks myself.

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    Can somebody enlighten me on who this is and why I should care?

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    you know whats sad - there are no denuvo crackers right now other than this psychopath bitch

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      Wait, so crackers don’t publish any documentation on cracking Denuvo? They just keep all the knowledge to themselves? Or is it just that nobody else wants to do it?

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        they keep it to themselves to remain on top. empress also accepts donations, even going so far as to refuse to crack a game unless she receives a certain amount of money like $500.

        she doesn’t release info because then she won’t be needed, and therefore won’t receive money for something that many crackers can do

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          That’s crazy. Those people are no better than the companies that put DRM in their products then.

          I wonder if we could do crowdfunding to pay someone to write and release the documentation? This way Denuvo cracking would be easy for any experienced cracker to learn.

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            isn’t that sort of what’s happening? she wants money for her work, and she won’t be able to live off of doing this if there is enough competition. this lady, insane as she is, isn’t the problem. it’s that finding something rewarding to do, and live off, isn’t easy. in fact, it is incredibly artificially hard

            granted, i know nothing about this woman’s financial situation. im just speculating as to why she wouldn’t want to share her knowledge or expertise

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              People have been cracking games and pirating for absolutely nothing for decades. In fact, I’d almost guarantee she got where she is off the notes and info freely given by the people that came before her. Make a living off of it? Seriously, ew. It’s just wrong. Also, she’s a huge bigot. Some comments elsewhere in this post elaborate.

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                And those people can continue to do it for nothing, but there’s no requirement that she should need to. It’s her choice if she want to do it for nothing or not, and it’s everyone else’s choice whether they want to support her with their money

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              By keeping the knowledge to herself, she is slowing down the society’s progress on destroying Denuvo. She also created a single point of failure. If she is gone, a lot of that knowledge will be lost. What will the community do then?

              I’m not saying she doesn’t deserve to earn money for her work. But she has the power to make it easier for other crackers to crack Denuvo. With enough people like that, maybe Denuvo could be destroyed entirely? Wouldn’t that be a more worthy cause to support? But it seems that instead of actually helping the society, her priority is to be the only one who benefits.

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                If she is gone … What will the community do then?

                I think Empress disappearing would be a net-positive for the cracking scene.

                If there is nobody cracking the latest releases, the pressure will mount for new crackers to enter the scene. And perhaps we’ll get a new generation of crackers that bring some competition back into the space.

                There’s also a lot of money involved in pirated games, with shops in poorer countries selling cracked games for pennies on the dollar to people who would otherwise be unable to afford, or even download the latest games.

                So it’s my opinion that denuvo cracking will never go away, it’ll just evolve over time, like it has since the beginning.

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                  Is that really good enough for you? Wouldn’t you prefer to make this area as easy for new people to enter as possible? Keeping this knowledge secret benefits only those few people. I don’t understand why anyone would be ok with this.

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                What will the community do then? Carry on. There’s always a new hotshot waiting in the wings. This cycle has been going on since before I was born and it’ll continue long after I’m dead. There will always be new cats and new mice in the scene.

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                  Since only one person is doing it right now, I’m not sure that it’s so certain that there will be other people who will want to do this. Even if someone new shows up, how many years will it take them to learn all of this? There is no reason to be ok with this secrecy. It only hurts the community.

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          Can we blame them? When you invest so much time acquiring skill and knowledge at one point you gotta eat and sleep somewhere.

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          Well her argument is, if Denuvo knows how she does it, they will patch it and it the process becomes more suicidal that it already is.

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          That’s actually pretty strange. Person who is able to crack Denuvo should have superior hacking skills. Such skills obviously allow to work as information security specialist, and such job easily delivers salary of 5+ thousand of $ per month even to specialists who are not skilled enough to crack Denuvo. So Empress asks to sponsor her for the money that she could easily obtain in less than two working days. This makes no sence.

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            Maybe they don’t have formal training, or live in a country where those jobs are unavailable.

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            tbh from what I’ve seen of her, I’m not sure that she has the temperament for a corporate job. Like, despite having the technical skills, she would probably be wholly unable to function in a typical white collar environment.

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            If she didn’t charge it would be free labour regardless. Also if what I am reading here is true and she is russian then the wages are likely more poor than you think. $500 would be worth more in that country.

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        Correct, they never published documentation, which has led us to this situation. The lack of “training” for newer crackers is something i even remember empress herself pointing out. There is some crackjng training centering around archaic drm like securom on spore. However cracking groups had gone more and more “closed source”.

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            Probably one of the big things keeping them from open sourcing their knowledge is denuvo though, they download games with their (cracked) DRM to RE and prevent future cracking

            and also, empress cracks cost $$$ C:

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              More people working on breaking Denuvo would mean more cracked games and more vulnerabilities being found. Even if Denuvo team could keep up with that, it would be extra cost for them.

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                Which clearly is money they have considering how much publishers pour onto that fire, tbh

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                  Probably, but they raised the cost for us, so we should do the same to them. Maybe we would eventually reach a point when companies using that product decide that it’s not longer worth it to pay X amount of money for a game to be “protected” for only Y amount of days. I think that should be the goal. To raise the costs, to make DRM as impractical for them as possible.

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              I think that the cracking groups could have released better explanations on how their tooling worked so that others could at least be closer to “up to date” with the current DRM technology. Right now public cracking info is years behind because the groups that did have any knowledge took it with them. The idea that this would help only denuvo was a bit myopic since either way when they left cracking it would help denuvo. However I heard that many cracking groups now work for denuvo so that may be part of it. But considering they did all that work for free, I don’t want to conspire about them or claim that I am entitled to their work.

              Edit: Also the people who have released “how to break denuvo” guides have been some of the more aggressively persued legally. So my lamenting over no documentation/explanation may be a bit “man i wish someone would break the law for MY benefit.”

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      I heard there was this other one who’s in a healthy mental state but only agrees to crack football games

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      I’m just going to assume if she disappears, at any point, that she is in rehab for meth. Lots of meth.

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        Have you seen her SPECIAL MESSAGE that was attached to the crack of Hogwarts: Legacy? There’s an awful lot of hate there, too. What was the need to pointlessly insult an entire group of already marginalized people? Pointing out someone’s bigotry and disliking them for it is nowhere near as bad as spewing bigotry, but that might just be my opinion.

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          The yin yang duality of day/night and hot/cold is so hilarious to me every time. You’re the greatest mind ever but you don’t know about the existence of twilight or room temperature?

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          Familiar with Temple OS and its creator? There are super brilliant people that don’t fit in society and end up with vile views. I mostly feel bad for them.

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          there´s something hilarious about her going on a transphobic tantrum and talking about how she supports jk rowling while giving a out a harry potter game for free making sure that rowling receives less money for it since she still gets payed in royalties(yeah I know she´s rich but it´s the irony of the situation for me)

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            You should start be reading about the Paradox of Tolerance, which pretty nicely describes why you shouldn’t be so accepting of bigotry.

            I still don’t see what warrants the hatred you and others spew on Empress, particularly when you do so because you deem awful the hate for a marginalized group.

            Why are you so eager to defend bigots? Do you really not understand the difference between hating someone for their beliefs they hold versus hating someone for who they are as a person?

            Although I will admit it's kind of funny you're making the exact same argument Empress was.

            “THE WOKE SYSTEM” of today runs with and “claims” that it mainly wants “fairness, justice, equality and total freedom”. But then … when someone with views against trans and tries to express themselves today, they are treated as GARBAGE and fired/banned from wherever they are, is a clear sign of huge “Contradiction”.

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    I miss mostly anonymous people cracking games without running around screaming from the rafters about gremlins in their modems stealing their breakfast bars. I can’t believe most if not all Denuvo releases are now only cracked by this person.

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      shit, what happens when she kicks the bucket? maybe someone else will emerge but it’s been so long already, and they haven’t, so it could take years and years

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        Demand is what causes Supply. Somewhere out there is someone with the skill to crack Denuvo, but no need to, because this lunatic is already doing it. And being the competition means being on empress’ radar, which is really something a sane person would not want.

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          That’s wishful thinking.

          She can only crack so many games, so the demand for the other games already stays without supply.

          The scene was much bigger before denuvo, the supply obviously went down independently of the demand.

          Also the demand/supply argument only makes sense where there is payment. There are starving people in the world who’s demand is not met bc the can’t pay while there are millions of facelifts administered to people who will pay large sums.

          Denuvo has succeeded in imposing such a huge threshold onto cracking that from the talented people only the most driven stayed in the game. With no money in it you need to be driven by something else, usually ego. Even if there is a successor to empress chances are that is true for them as well.

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            I should be clear that I don’t think supply and demand are immovable levers by which the world economy does or should work. I also don’t believe there’s only one person with the ability to do this. If they stop, I’m left to assume one of the eight billion people on this rock with the time and talent and resources to do this will.

            And if they don’t then I’m just going to have to deal with it because this is internet piracy, my dude. But there’s no world in which I’m going to defend what empress does as a vital public service. I think I would prefer that they stop and get help, but I don’t expect that to happen.

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        We wait until Denuvo gets patched out of a game. There are so many games to play, you can survive without playing Denuvo protected ones.

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      Something probably might have happened. Cause she has been using 1337x for a longtime now.

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    With CPY and Codex gone the PC cracking scene is dead and gone as far as AAA games are concerned. Denuvo is too difficult and time consuming to crack. The scene lost.

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      Yep, and I don’t feel all that bad. AAA games have been getting shafted for ages.

      Now we can support and enjoy even more indie games, big companies can suck it while losing more money, and inevitably something will come along against Denuvo down the line.

      And maybe Empress can recoup. Seems like she’s not in a great place atm.

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    Me, five minutes ago: “who’s this Empress?”

    Me, now: “I need to follow her, it’s free popcorn!”

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        I was hoping it would be a HobbyDrama writeup, but this blew me away, this feels like a gold standard post that I can’t believe I’ve never seen before. What a talented, skillful writer! The detail, the flow, everything is just right - just the perfect amount of background, just the perfect amount of depth. Thank you so much for this link!

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        Theres no used to be when it comes to these rants. It’s just a ticking clock to the next one

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      Empress is a video game cracker, the only active cracker who releases games protected by Denuvo. That’s an extremly popular digital rights management system for stop game cracks used by Triple A game publishers. She is also completely nuts and regularly has very odd rants. It appears she’s accusing 1337x owners of inserting malware into releases. 1337x is a popular site for accessing torrents of cracked games and one Empress regularly released on.