Apparently, some schools in the U.S. didn’t teach phonics until recently (2014).
Did anyone here learn phonics in school?
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It was taught in my first grade class in the early 1970s.
Since I come from a culture where our alphabet is actually consistent to how you pronounce things with no exceptions:
no.
Sure your country’s high grammar might be consistent, but the general day-to-day would have influences from other languages that can’t be so neatly categorised, and their pronounciation would differ from region to region
We do, and even those have rules. Not phonetic rules though
Well technically that is phonics, you see a new word, as a learner, you know how to sound it out. Compared to the Whole Word learning method where somebody has to teach you what a word says. English is a nasty mess of both.
I’m not sure what specifically is meant by phonics. My grandma taught first grade for 30 years, ending around 2000. She said when phonics came in “that’s just teaching reading” and when phonics went out “well, obviously we still have to teach how the alphabet works” and when phonics came in again “eye roll”. So, whatever the school leadership says, my guess is kids are learning phonics.
A lot of kids were taught to read badly. There’s this whole “whole word” and “cuing theory” approach to reading that doesn’t work very well. https://features.apmreports.org/sold-a-story/
Apparently 65% of fourth graders aren’t proficient at reading (as of the linked source from 2022)
noʊ, aɪ doʊnt θɪŋk aɪ dɪd.
stop using ipa
meɪk mi.
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Yes, I think so. I also did Hooked On Phonics with my grandfather before starting kindergarten which meant I could already read by the time we started school. This was in Texas in the early '90s.
Yes, from early 70s onward.
Yup. It’s phuckin awesome
I agree. You can’t loose.
I remember one time thinking about how my grandpa didn’t learn this and other related skills as a kid the same way I did in school and so we understand our same language a totally different way, where I saw parts of words, he just saw a whole word.
Nah, it was mostly rote. But, I was reading pretty early, and my family did use a looser form of phonics with all of us. When it was a read-along, they’d point out words that didn’t fit normal phonic rules, and explain a little. Read-alongs were super frequent for us. Daily, for most of my childhood, though I kinda “graduated” into doing the reading somewhere around 3rd grade for the second wave of cousins on one side of the family.
My mom’s family runs high to dedicated readers, so it was always a thing where someone was reading something out loud to share a passage or whatever, even when it wasn’t one of the adults reading to the kids as a group. And all our parents were super into reading to us individually too.
In kindergarten, it was straight into it, no phonics involved at all. But it was still mostly group based reading. First grade, it was individual work, with vocabulary, reading, and writing as parts of the language arts section of class. No phonics, and really no sounding things out at all. My first grade teacher was sweet as all get out, but did not play around with lessons.
Yes, my elementary school explicitly used it.
I didn’t, for me it was “Ai, Bee, See, Dee, Eee, Eff, Jee” (except in my local language Danish). My children all learnt phonics in their U.K. school and it’s taught them to read 5x faster I’d say).
This comment section is reminding me its not normal for me to have maybe a dozen memories from under age 13. I have never even heard of phonics i just know i can read. Idk how i learned to. When i read i just like do it. Its the same as listening it just happens.
Nope. Never even heard of it until recently, in the context of kids leaving school unable to read.
