This could obviously be seen as a circle jerk post, but I’m just ranting a bit, need to get this annoyance off my chest after watching a crap video (The latest innuendo studios video, if you are curious, but that video isn’t important specifically here).

Liberals (The American Democrat kind) spend a lot of time talking about how the alt-right will throw a piece of junk science in your face in order to support their racist conclusions or false medical conspiracy theories. This is all fine and dandy because the alt-right are looking for anything that back a racist or sexist or anti-trans conclusion, even when the studies conclusion doesn’t really support that. I usually agree with the “American democratic liberals” in these cases.

But most social/political “studies” are pretty much junk, “we surveyed 100 young people in one city and now we think we know what the whole of American youth think”… Right… sure you do.

Plus history is one of the most contentious topics in all of… Well history ironically. You can’t just point to the winners and say “See, we won the war, so we’re definitely right about the history of the country we destroyed”… Buuuut…

Then they turn around and throw a junk survey or a junk “study” that has some anti-communist rhetoric, and you explain why it is junk and how it’s factually incorrect, they double down… Just like the alt-right does… Because they will believe anything that supports their anti-communist conclusions… Why does that sound familiar?

I’ve run through this so many times before, between anti-China “studies” and anti-Soviet rhetoric. They’re so willing to just blindly accept anything that the USA says, even stuff said during the Red Scare, for which even most of them will even admit was a time of deep propaganda. Exposing CIA declassified documents sometimes works, but often doesn’t anyway. How many times I’ve heard about “holodomor” or “Stalin killed more people than Hitler”. It’s just so aggravating.

End rant; have a good day

By the way, if you made it this far, I really appreciate this community because on the whole, people are willing to listen and talk to people so long as we are approached in good faith. We tend not to just spit on someone for asking an honest question (But it is totally funny to spit on someone who is clearly just an anti-commie fascist or something).

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    5 days ago

    The worst part is that most of the rest of the video had really good arguments (especially the “engage with the underlying argument, not their distractive one”). It was really discouraging to see that and just really ruined the vibe.

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      As I mentioned in my other reply, that was actually what signaled me to come here and make this post because it was such a darn good video! And then they had to just go and ruin it by being like “nope sometimes we put our heads in the ground too”, and like… Ugh… damn it this is why I’m not a liberal anymore.

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        5 days ago

        Yeah, I know that feeling. The only reason I hatewatch liberals is to see what their current worldview talking points are, so I can see where they’re right and where they’re ignoring the inherent violence that is unquestioned in the system (insert Adam Johnson market forces rant here).