• Queen HawlSera@lemm.ee
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    I only like the first three Harry Potter books, when Scabbers goes, so does the book having any credibility it seems.

    People don’t like Harry Potter for the story, so when it tries too be serious it falls apart. The part of Harry Potter people enjoy is the whimsy of the wizarding world, that’s it.

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      You don’t speak for all people. No doubt what you said is true for some. My favorite books were 4 and 5.

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      If magic interferes and influences electricity, which means it can be measured, analyzed and manipulated as a new form of energy.

      To cover up magic on all “fronts” would be impossible by today’s standards. Harry Potter would never be as successful nower days as it was. Simply because the smartphone enters the life’s of humans as essential device very early in life.

      Kind of hard to switch off all those thoughts.

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        To cover up magic on all “fronts” would be impossible by today’s standards. Harry Potter would never be as successful nower days as it was. Simply because the smartphone enters the life’s of humans as essential device very early in life.

        Even then, Harry Potter canonically took place in the early 90’s even though it released in the 2000’s

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        Sounds like someone needs to read “Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality”.

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        Easiest explanation is: there is no electricity in hogwarts and wizards don’t have electricians nor electricity generation, so “electricity doesn’t work in hogwarts”.

        If magic was electromagnetic or at least can be measured by effects that it has wizards would have been found during 20th century by general populace.

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          The easiest explanation is that it’s magic and we’re all muggles and therefore incapable of understanding it.

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            There is nothing in the books that says that people without magic can’t understand it? I think there was a plot point in 4 or 5 book where harry is on trial for using some spell to scare away dementors, and his neighboor testifies that he really did it and people don’t believe her cause she doesn’t have magic. But that’s only seeing magical creatures, what stops anyone from understanding it exactly? They do repeatable things that return repeatable results, pretty understandable.

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          There are multiple mentions that electronics ALLWAYS malfunctions in presence of magic. So that is a new physical law in disguise. An especially interesting one that interacts with certain intelligence (like mind reading of the user, by the user of other users, memory extraction and manifestation in sentient beings).

          Sentient Electromagimagnetic field confirmed?

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            Or that can be a bullshit by uninformed wizards with superiority complex, they have like 5 years of mandatory education. And most don’t interact with anyone but magical people in their enclaves.

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              And are getting mamed and inbred out of tradition in a school designed to teach them survival skills in a world the muggles already made their own.

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            Magic could operate differently from electromagnetism, but still interfere, such as with quantum effects. Inference doesn’t need to go both ways.

            I thought about writing a magic setting with fairly hard justification for magic, and in my world, you’d control individual atoms and combine them to get the effects you want. You’d do this by gaining the respect of or instilling fear into atoms so they’d do your bidding. Spoken spells are more like tricks taught to dogs than having any power of their own, and the power derives from the respect or fear the atoms have for the caster. This explains why some wizards/witches are more powerful than others, and why learning isn’t necessarily the best way to get more powerful. The strongest magic users in my world spend a lot of time meditating, meaning communing with the target group of atoms.

            The inner workings of atoms is poorly understood, so I think there’s room to insert some form of sentience.

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              Getting your magical SI units right could help you balance the powers. I like the idea of “Respecto Atomum”

              How much respect is needed for no more movement at all (0°K) in 1m^3?

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        If magic interferes and influences electricity, which means it can be measured, analyzed and manipulated as a new form of energy.

        Unless it does so unpredictably / always exactly the way you don’t want it to. It’s magic after all.

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          If some wizards of quantum mechanics can write math for… whatever quantum mechanics is… I think there could be a way or two, to manipulate magic by science.

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        If magic interferes and influences electricity, which means it can be measured, analyzed and manipulated

        …that would also be true if it didn’t interact with electricity.