This new bill, signed into law by President Joe Biden, includes a provision that limits access to gender-affirming care services for the children of people serving in the military.
The bill just “includes” the provision? Nobody put it there, it’s just that new language often spontaneously erupts in a piece of legislation?
And why the vague language of “limits access to gender-affirming care services”. What’s actually in the bill is no more complex and a lot more clear. Are psychological gender-affirming services still available? Yep. Are puberty blocking drugs still covered? Yep. All that’s blocked is coverage for procedures that might result in sterilization - procedures that are already not generally done on minors who arguably aren’t yet capable of giving proper consent.
Tell the whole story or GTFO. Debating Biden’s complicity is fine, but don’t skip the Republican’s role with the passive voice like you’re CNN describing how more violence just “erupted” in Gaza. Don’t hide what’s actually in the bill and potentially cause trans kids to not bother seeking medical services because they were misled by your hack politics.
This is not legitimate outrage at the legislation. If it were, you wouldn’t have left out the main protagonists, what’s actually in the legislation, and the entire story. It’s just mastebetory outrage bait meant to divide the left which is (surprise) the entire reason Republicans forced the issue to begin with.
If you’re not already a right wing troll, you should go find the people who pay money for posting this kind of garbage.
Trans people and LGBTQ magazines aren’t drumming up “illegitimate outrage” for Democratic complicity in passing anti-trans legislation. They had veto power in both the Senate and the White House and let it sail right through because it was easier for them.
And I’ve definitely edited out the personal attacks for posting such an offensive comment. But you certainly goddamned deserve them.
My comments were mostly directed at the summary, although a couple criticisms apply to the article as well. As I said, it’s legitimate to discuss how complicit Biden is, and you can add the Senate to that as well. The problem is doing it in the context of incomplete and misleading information about what was actually in the bill, who put it there, and why. Such a discussion does more harm than good in the ways that I explained.
The bit at the end was perhaps over the top, but it’s not wrong that this kind of reaction against the Democrats is exactly why the Republicans put it in the bill.
You weren’t privy to the negotiations, so your commentary that Democrats just passed it because it was “easier” is entirely speculation. Stating that as fact is something I consider offensive. It also didn’t just “sail right through”. The negotiations took months, and the negotiations on such a bill don’t end until the votes are known. The actual process of calling the vote is irrelevant. I criticize Democrats myself, but not for things I just make up in my head.
The bit at the end was perhaps over the top, but it’s not wrong that this kind of reaction against the Democrats is exactly why the Republicans put it in the bill.
OH WELL THAT’S OK THEN.
Hey, I’ve got an idea MAYBE FIGHT TO REMOVE IT FROM THE BILL THEN. “They made a really damaging modification, oh well, guess we just have to take our (well earned) beatings then, we’ve tried nothing and we’re all out of options.”
And fuck you Out magazine isn’t blowing things out of proportion to harm the Democrats. The HRC, GLAAD, and ACLU aren’t just making up things in their head. Your capitulating ass doesn’t get to decide when LGBTQ people are allowed to get upset at the representatives they support and voted for throwing them under the bus. YOU, who is postulating on complex negotiations behind closed doors that tried their best but simply couldn’t find a way to say “that’s unacceptable” are the one who is actually making things up.
MAYBE FIGHT TO REMOVE IT FROM THE BILL THEN
We know they didn’t remove it from the bill. We don’t know that they didn’t fight to remove it from the bill. We do know that they objected and negotiated it down for what it originally was. We also know that passing no bill would be worse, even for any children impacted by the coverage restrictions.
Out magazine isn’t blowing things out of proportion to harm the Democrats.
My comments were directed at the summary more than the article. The article does have some of the same flaws though.
The HRC, GLAAD, and ACLU aren’t just making up things in their head.
I hope they are clear eyed about who is responsible. I don’t think it likely that they would blame Democrats and ignore the Republicans who pushed it.
Your capitulating ass doesn’t get to decide when LGBTQ people are allowed to get upset
I made no objection to anyone being upset. It absolutely sucks that this was included and I’ll fight right along side you to get it changed. We should all be upset. But, we are in a split power situation with the Democrats seriously weakened after the election. That’s going to have consequences, and I’m afraid this was the tip of the iceberg. No President with a split Congress has ever been able to control everything in every piece of legislation they sign. That’s just not reality.
YOU, who is postulating on complex negotiations behind closed doors.
Postulating that negotiations happened, or what happened in those negotiations? We know the negotiations happened, and we know that early drafts were worse on this and other Republican culture war issues. Beyond that, I don’t claim to know anything, but you seem to. It was you who postulated that they didn’t try to remove it.
Maybe in the near future we’ll learn something about the negotiations that will change my opinion. Maybe the Democrats traded this to the Republicans in exchange for more pork for blue states or more bombs for Israel. Are you aware of any such dealings?
Oh my god you fucking apologists. Every assumption of Democrats giving 110% good faith efforts with NO EVIDENCE they did so and the temerity to act offended that they receive flak for failing. They had veto points all along the path. They had an amendment to remove it that wasn’t even voted for. They had a broad array of civil rights organizations tell them to stand up for one of the most vulnerable populations in the entire country. And Biden for sure had no excuse because he was a single decision point. This isn’t “make M4A happen by executive fiat” it’s “maintain the status quo”. That was entirely within their power. They just didn’t want to.
HRC, GLAAD, and ACLU aren’t the problem. The “white moderates” with every excuse for why the minorities must sacrifice and backsliding is actually peak performance are.
Democrats say the American public doesn’t need the 2nd amendment anymore, but here they are proving to your face that when push comes to shove, no one will be coming to help you when your lawn has a mob of 61 MAGA coming to lynch you for whatever delusional reason they manufacture.
We are on our own.
You’re gonna die of old age soon biden, but your garbage legacy will linger forever in the history books like shitting on the pages and slamming the book shut.
A cowardly empty shell of a man to the bitter end.
Enjoy hell you piece of shit.
With allies like these on Lemmy who the fuck needs enemies. So anytime we want to throw trans people under the bus just add it to a funding bill? Would y’all be singing the same tune if these provisions targeted gay people? Black? Jewish? At what point does an anti trans law cross the line for y’all? How many rights do we have to lose before you’ll speak up?
Bro… the genocide. All lines have not only been crossed but erased forever as the Democrats ratchet the USA to the right.
I mean, they’ve already signed off on wholesale genocide, it’s pretty clear they have no lines left to cross.
Fuck off Joe. Stop doing Trump’s dirty work for him.
Pocket veto that shit.
As a detail that’s missing from the article and kinda sorta lied about in the headline, it seems like this gender-affirming care was introduced in 2016 by the Obama administration as part of other additions of transition-related care.
Whoever could have predicted this. The Democrats will throw anyone under the bus.
They start with the weakest and most vulnerable and then they work their way out to the rest of us.
This is who he is, a pushover.
Anyone outraged at Biden for this being played for a fool.
Good luck getting any future support if this is how you treat the leaders of the only legitimate party that is allied with you.
Which party is that again? Because I can’t think of a political party that is working to remove landlords, empower worker’s unions, and break up massive corporations.
Those are some random goal posts you’re tossing down but they only indicate you aren’t an well informed voter.
I’m sure Trump who runs several corporations, is a well known landlord and has well established anti-union views will do some amazing things to all those causes.
I agree that Democrats are slightly less evil. That’s a far cry from making them good.
Remember, the system will never give you the tools to destroy it.
