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I was arguing with a engineer two weeks ago about systems. I never met him before. But he had a few drinks and interrupted our conversation. And I nearly lost my shit because of how confident this guy was speaking, saying obvious things and being vague, while not saying anything at all. Like, “This system isn’t good at all! We should all follow Clean Code principles!”
Then someone pulled me aside and said, “Go easy on the guy. He’s only been in the industry for a year.”
And I did feel bad. But also like, my dude… You are going to wake up to realizing you know nothing about everything.
You are going to wake up to realizing you know nothing about everything.
I wish I had your optimism about humanity.
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Best to read the comment you’re replying to before going on a tirade - this guy drunkenly interrupted OPs conversation to lecture them, it’s a proportionate response, even if maybe not optimal
Intellectual curiosity is the true barometer; you either thirst to know more, or you’re content with ignorance.
Eventually you realize you forget almost as much as you learn, it’s like a bilge pump in a sinking boat. Then you focus on what you want to remember and come to acceptance with that.
You have to keep going through rehearsal of that old information to keep it from fading. The hard part is stacking new layers on the old layers.
I know way too much about the bronze age and not in a haha Ea-Nasir way but in a I have the major trade routes of the era memorized sort of way. The only official education I have is a high school diploma that even then I probably shouldn’t have gotten since I failed math outright.
Ah yes. I am truly a thirsty knowledge bitch.
you know it!
There is a third way!
You thirst to know more but have a soul crushing deficit of self esteem and truly believe you’re incapable of anything more than menial labor. You remain with your thirst, not content with your ignorance, but unable to overcome the self image of “absolute moron with no place in the scientific community who must be narcissistic for even thinking he could be” and so you grow to hate yourself even more because of it!
…Err… Or so my friend says.
I think it’s a general thing with highly capable persons in expert and highly intellectual domains that eventually you kinda figure out what Socrates actually meant with “All I know is that I know nothing”
I feel like that sentiment is easily reached by anyone who is curious and likes to learns, so a lot of people.
If one thinks a lot, likes to learn and, maybe more important, thinks about knowledge and learning things, that person will probably get there.
A certain educational background probably helps but is neither required nor sufficient, IMHO.
Everyone is just making it up as we go along.
Be skeptical of anyone who claims they have the answer.
42!
But who has the question?!
:P
What is 41! Multip*ied by 42?
There’s such a thing as knowledge, which qualifies you to do some Job’s better than the rest. Keep that in mind.
Me at 34 with no post secondary education: I wish i could afford to goto school
I have come to realize a PhD just means you have spent a lot of time thinking about what you are doing.
Doesn’t mean what you are doing is smart really. Just well thought about.
wisdom is understanding what we dont know
I’ve forgotten more than I know.
“All I know is that I know nothing.”
That’s it, no discussion.
There’s people who don’t understand what that means.
Perhaps they are they wisest of all.
that’s more than some people who think they know everything.
My all time favorite “Stig Fact” from Top Gear is
“They say that he knows only two things about ducks…and both of them are wrong”
Which would arguably qualify as knowing less than nothing about ducks 😁
Whenever I see this quote (or others like it) I hear it read in Bill’s voice from Bill and Ted’s Excellent Adventure.
Bill : Socrates [SOH -crates]- ’ the only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing.
Ted: Dude, that’s us!
The last one is me with only an associates except I’m licensed under that associates to provide health services and that just makes idiots of us all on a daily and often even hourly basis. “You put what in your where now? …and why did I go to school to be the person you call to get it back out???”
I disagree. Most people seem dumb, but there are select few which are incredibly genius.
Like, I heard of a model theorist who produces quality papers every month or so. Then there is also Andrew Wiles, who proved Fermat’s last theorem through labyrinth of Langlands. The complexity and depth of the field is just insane.
Yes, balanced on the other end by billions of mouth-breathing maroons.
I already knew that I and everyone is dumb before my undergrad. Am I smart?
Hard no.
I think you’re more wise than smart?
IMO, all three of these statements are correct.
I think the difference is that some people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to make the same realization.
Hey, the only reason you choose to think that way is… bc it is objectively true.:-|
