A gun rights group sued New Mexico Gov. Michelle Lujan Grisham (D) and other state officials on Saturday over an emergency order banning firearms from being carried in public in Albuquerque.

The National Association for Gun Rights, alongside Albuquerque resident Foster Haines, filed suit just one day after Grisham announced the public health order temporarily suspending concealed and open carry laws in the city.

The group argued that the order violates their Second Amendment rights, pointing to the Supreme Court’s decision last year in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen.

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    1 year ago

    Concealed carriers commit violent crimes at less than 1/10 the rate of the general public.

    I dont buy it

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      1 year ago

      That’s not at all controversial. That is an incredibly conservative claim.

      The “general public” includes 19 million convicted felons and far more people convicted of violent misdemeanors. Background checks exclude all of these individuals from licensure.

      Throw a dart at the general population, and you have an 8% to 12% chance of hitting a previously convicted violent criminal.

      Throw a dart at the licensed carrier population, and your probability is virtually 0%.

      Keep in mind that recidivism rates are typically above 80%. One group has about 16 million ticking time bombs, and the other group has none. Your risk of violent attack is vastly lower from concealed carriers than from the general public.

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        1 year ago

        All of those felons were previously not convicted felons. Any of them could have been convicted of felony gun crimes while being licensed carriers.

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          1 year ago

          That sounds reasonable on first inspection, but it doesn’t actually hold up to scrutiny.

          The problem with that theory is that you have to be 21 (in almost all states) before you are eligible for a license. There are a few states where you can be as young as 18, but not many.

          The overwhelming majority of convicted felons had disqualifying criminal records as juveniles. They were ineligible due to their juvenile convictions while still ineligible due to age. They are members of the general population, but they never became eligible to become licensed carriers.