• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    3 hours ago

    The real beef was with stay home single EDIT issue folks who would otherwise be Dem voters.

    3rd party “voices” were annoying because they only punched at Dems, never at republicans. Interestingly, a few of them migrated to libertarian and conservative instances now

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      This is all just the same toxic projection that I’ve been pointing out in this thread.

      You want to blame third parties but there is basically 0, practically negative evidence for it.

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        No, I haven’t discussed 3rd parties at all in my comment. I said 3rd party “voices”, reading comprehension meaning “commenters/online personalities” because I noted their movement to new instances.

        Edit also note I had a typo in my above “single party” to 'single issue"

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            3 hours ago

            Splendid discussion as usual dingdong. Twist then pull up

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                So much assuming.

                My “toxicity” are legitimate concerns to not get trump, who will ramp everything up. Well look who’s here now.

                As I said, single issue stay homes, and “alternative” voices that actually only served to strike at Dems are issues I believe shifted the narrative and may have influenced the election.

                I made a thread to discuss other influences beyond just punching down at 3rd party platforms.

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                  Yes we heard you the first 3 times. Its the voters fault. The Democrats are merely victims, completely maladroit at managing their own fate.

                  You aren’t making different any new points or clarification, just repeating the same, tired tropes that just handed the US democracy over to fascism. And we get it, you are incapable of expanding your understanding beyond the initial assumptions you made. No need to repeat yourself any longer.

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                    Honestly dude I commented with the intent of discussing the issue but you’re just slinging mud.

                    It’s not toxicity to make an observation on forces that drove voters to not vote for harris. I didn’t say Harris was a queen and how dare they. I didn’t say the Dems ran a good campaign or a good primary or something.

                    It’s not that 3rd parties exist, or have different ideas than Dems.

                    If I MUST discuss them I would say the only actual criticism I have (omg toxicity warning) is that they only crop up, and only vocalize in popular spaces right around general elections. They need to build their platform and messaging NOW and for the next several years with the intensity and visibility they do in August-november of a general election year. Their mission and goals would be more effectively achieved