• Zozano@lemy.lol
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      11 hours ago

      I’m not convinced this is a valid reason. It’s really just another way of saying “because I want to”, which is still a better than tradition.

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        10 hours ago

        Subjective. I think it is way worse. Or “to see the world burn”, “to make humanity extinct”.

        Be it a moral or technical angle, there is many worse than “because our ancestors did it this way and we still came about”.

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          5 hours ago

          As another commenter replied to you, you’re conflating bad outcomes with good reasons.

          “To watch the world burn” is still a better reason, even if the outcome is the same, or worse.

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            A ‘good reason’ is a useless illusion if it doesn’t lead to good outcomes.

            A good reason is not something that follows the form A->B.

            Last I checked people don’t live in Plato’s abstract plane of perfection, but in the imperfect and chaotic reality. A ‘good reason’ is a terrible one if it leads you or me to ruin, period.

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              I think the problem here is you’ve assumed my usage of “good” and “bad” are referring to the net reduction / increase of suffering.

              I’ve been using the term “worst” as synonymous with “invalid”. So yes, within my context, good reason implicitly follows the form A->B.

              Seriously, think about it for a moment. without knowing whether the OUTCOME is good or bad, what is a good REASON?

              If you found your friend bleeding out, slipping in and out of consciousness, life and death situation, and a cop chases you all the way to the hospital, do you think the cop is going to think you have a good REASON for speeding?

              Tradition is the least valid reason (in terms of epistemology) for doing anything.

              Saying “because” is just straight up invalid.