• ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 hour ago

    But like maybe you should have read the article you posted.

    I did. Biden should have done more. But he didn’t do nothing.

    You’re just interested in anyone who is even remotely dissatisfied with Democrats shutting up or being shut up, regardless of what Democrats do.

    I want people to be vocal. You’re doing that. I disagree with what is being said.

    Dude, I fucking tried to warn about what was going to happen and I wasn’t the only one. At least here on lemmy, it meant being called a trumper and a Russian every last time.

    And I tried to warn you people. You played right into the hands of MAGA and the Kremlin. We knew who Harris and the Democrats were. The goal was to prevent fascism anyway. There was no other viable strategy, but people still tried to sink Harris’ campaign anyway.

    I have no remaining faith in the party. Not after this election.

    The Democratic Party is a tool, not a friend you need to have faith in.

    As did Harris, vague meaningless non-policy promises notwithstanding.

    I showed receipts. Reiterate the same lie as many times as you want. It will still be a lie.

    Ooh. Were they strongly worded?

    What matter’s is that it was Biden’s decision. People in his administration disagreed with him.

    This thread is about Democrats. Of course Trump is worse. That doesn’t excuse selling weapons for an ongoing genocide.

    No, I mean you wouldn’t still be in this thread shitting on Democrats if you cared. You would want to spend your time going after Trump, since he’s going to president, but that’s not where you are directing your energy.

    I’m telling you not to be a damned fool. The party will sell you out. It’s what they do. It’s a pattern of behavior that you’ve been making excuses for.

    That’s what I’m telling you. We need to co-opt the Democrats. I’m not making excuses for their behavior, I’m arguing for a strategy to advance our goals. Voting for Democrats until the party is co-opted by a progressive and socialist populist movement buys us time to make that happen. If you read my comments you would know my argument’s position by now.

    Who is screaming at whom to be silent?

    You at me. Be vocal. But do it in a way that is useful.

    They’re using you. Not the other way around.

    People are definitely using you. They got you arguing against your own interests and you don’t even know. Or maybe you don’t care. That moral victory is too important to you. edit: typo