They quite literally only stated facts, so you’re not really saying anything useful.
Your country might also just be your own sphere, if people don’t have problems with these obvious issues and zero concerns for their cats health then maybe they should change.
That’s quite an annoying comment to make but it does make them sympathetic to me, obviously you can’t judge these people if they don’t have the knowledge not to do it.
Unless you live next to some kinda highway a cat is plenty capable of avoiding slow driving cars. Sure, outside is a bit more dangerous than inside. That’s what makes it interesting for the cat. Keeping them inside all the time is cruel. Risk is a part of life and sometimes pets die. Just like other animals do, just like humans do. You could be hit by a car as well. So do you spend your life indoors? Of course not.
It’s the same mindset as helicopter parents. Allow your cat to be a cat.
I don’t think that’s how cats work, as they’re perfectly happy and can absolutely thrive inside which has probably also been proven. The data about cat lifespans outside vs inside does not lie, It’s not a conspiracy sadly.
And to add on to that, in my experience cats can not avoid slow driving cars with the biggest success rate. Cat doors can also be used inside, but cat doors are cute either way.
if people don’t have problems with these obvious issues and zero concerns for their cats health then maybe they should change.
They have a point - different place, different culture. You can’t simply ask people to change just becauss it doesn’t fit your mold - why not try to understand them instead. Different culture has different problems and priorities. The west has advanced in such a way that the issues that used big issues to them were solved and no longer becoming problems to them. So they have the capacity to find smaller problems to cherry pick and solve. But for some other places, they still have to face big issues that these smaller issues are not important enough to be prioritised. They will find you weird if you ask them to become a better person by having cats indoor when they have they other bigger priority to deal with.
I find people that don’t travel a lot and see the world besides theirs tend to have an opinion like yours. They don’t realize that they are different world beyond their realm. So, instead of asking people to change, why not try to understand why they are what they are.
I didn’t say they should change right now, which is what you seem to think that I said. My opinion still stands on this, they should change and they can change.
And no, I do and have travelled a lot throughout my life and understand cultural differences and the like in case you wanted to keep commenting on that. It doesn’t matter, change can and will always happen.
Then, let look at these three places as simple studies.
Turkey - cats have been roaming free on the road. It’s part of Cat’s Right (Signatory of Istanbul Convention) for them to run freely. By now, birds should be extinct there by OPs logic.
Those people living in poor area in Mumbai - They’ve been living in the slump areas all their life do you think they care about environment and birds dying? They even struggle to think how to live the next day. They don’t care and won’t change at least until that place turn middle-class.
My place somewhere in South East Asia - On average, every house will open its windows and doors early in the morning until the evening, especially in the village area - part of the culture/belief to bring wealth (rizq - google that) in. By logic, the reason is to keep the house cool. I bet you don’t know this even though you said you travel a lot. May be you need to stay instead of just travelling so you pick up people’s culture better. Anyway, back to it, mostly the posh have cats indoor because usually they have special breed, e.g. Farsi. Good luck to keep cats in when the doors and windows are always open.
That’s only three places. You go to different places, they have their own niche issues. Until they can solve their problems or change their culture, they can’t simply change just because you tell them what they’re doing are bad for the environment.
You’ve just repeated what you’ve already said, and I’m now having to repeat what I said.
For point one that you made, birds like that don’t simply go extinct in one place and OP never said they did so I don’t know what you’re going after.
For point two and three, I’ll repeat that I again did not say they need to change right now or the cat specific problem will change anytime soon or even in our lifetime. I also never said that I thought they cared.
And I again don’t get why you’re trying to pick at me personally, especially about how temperature change in a house works.
I’m going to stop replying after this most likely, as you’re writing as if I have said things that I have not which is pointless to a conversation.
They quite literally only stated facts, so you’re not really saying anything useful.
Your country might also just be your own sphere, if people don’t have problems with these obvious issues and zero concerns for their cats health then maybe they should change.
Except for the preface stating the opinion that people that let their cats roam are shit.
That’s quite an annoying comment to make but it does make them sympathetic to me, obviously you can’t judge these people if they don’t have the knowledge not to do it.
Is this the most ironic username ever or what?
Unless you live next to some kinda highway a cat is plenty capable of avoiding slow driving cars. Sure, outside is a bit more dangerous than inside. That’s what makes it interesting for the cat. Keeping them inside all the time is cruel. Risk is a part of life and sometimes pets die. Just like other animals do, just like humans do. You could be hit by a car as well. So do you spend your life indoors? Of course not.
It’s the same mindset as helicopter parents. Allow your cat to be a cat.
I don’t think that’s how cats work, as they’re perfectly happy and can absolutely thrive inside which has probably also been proven. The data about cat lifespans outside vs inside does not lie, It’s not a conspiracy sadly.
And to add on to that, in my experience cats can not avoid slow driving cars with the biggest success rate. Cat doors can also be used inside, but cat doors are cute either way.
They have a point - different place, different culture. You can’t simply ask people to change just becauss it doesn’t fit your mold - why not try to understand them instead. Different culture has different problems and priorities. The west has advanced in such a way that the issues that used big issues to them were solved and no longer becoming problems to them. So they have the capacity to find smaller problems to cherry pick and solve. But for some other places, they still have to face big issues that these smaller issues are not important enough to be prioritised. They will find you weird if you ask them to become a better person by having cats indoor when they have they other bigger priority to deal with.
I find people that don’t travel a lot and see the world besides theirs tend to have an opinion like yours. They don’t realize that they are different world beyond their realm. So, instead of asking people to change, why not try to understand why they are what they are.
I didn’t say they should change right now, which is what you seem to think that I said. My opinion still stands on this, they should change and they can change.
And no, I do and have travelled a lot throughout my life and understand cultural differences and the like in case you wanted to keep commenting on that. It doesn’t matter, change can and will always happen.
Then, let look at these three places as simple studies.
That’s only three places. You go to different places, they have their own niche issues. Until they can solve their problems or change their culture, they can’t simply change just because you tell them what they’re doing are bad for the environment.
You’ve just repeated what you’ve already said, and I’m now having to repeat what I said.
For point one that you made, birds like that don’t simply go extinct in one place and OP never said they did so I don’t know what you’re going after.
For point two and three, I’ll repeat that I again did not say they need to change right now or the cat specific problem will change anytime soon or even in our lifetime. I also never said that I thought they cared.
And I again don’t get why you’re trying to pick at me personally, especially about how temperature change in a house works.
I’m going to stop replying after this most likely, as you’re writing as if I have said things that I have not which is pointless to a conversation.
I’m just saying. It’s cultural.
That is indeed what you said, you can read what I said above.