• Dragonstaff@leminal.space
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    4 hours ago

    The majority of white women always vote Republican and that’s just fine. 12% of Black men lean Republican and we get article after article about what’s wrong with us.

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      4 hours ago

      The majority of white women always vote Republican

      Not sure when that was true but it is not true now

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        You’re kidding, right? LMAO

        White women are not a swing voting bloc. In the past 18 presidential elections, they have repeatedly voted for the Republican candidate, breaking only for Lyndon B. Johnson and for Bill Clinton’s second term. As political scientist Jane Junn wrote in 2016, “The elephant in the room is white and female, and she has been standing there since 1952.”

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/27/white-women-vote-republican-get-used-it-democrats/

        Downvoting me for being correct gets tiresome. But this is precisely how racist this country is. Even if there has been some small shift towards Dems, ya’ll would be way better off figuring out how to convert your sisters rather than worrying about a tiny number of Black Republicans.

        White Democrats just prefer to blame us, like you always do. ✌🏾

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          Do you have a source? That’s an opinion without a single source for their claims.

          When I look for sources, they all dispute your claim.

          A study about this topic: https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2018/08/09/an-examination-of-the-2016-electorate-based-on-validated-voters/

          Example from the exit polls 2016: https://www.statista.com/statistics/631224/voter-turnout-of-the-exit-polls-of-the-2016-elections-by-gender/

          Here’s a times article disputing your claim:

          https://time.com/5422644/trump-white-women-2016/

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            I don’t think you actually read those articles

            According to a later analysis that experts consider more reliable, a study published in August by the Pew Research Center, the percentage of white women who voted for Trump was actually 47%, compared to 45% for Clinton. That’s still a plurality, and still makes white women more Trump-positive than the overall electorate

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              I read those, and they made me confident enough to refute this statement:

              The majority of white women always vote Republican and that’s just fine. 12% of Black men lean Republican and we get article after article about what’s wrong with us.

              I picked the most extreme case in his favour on purpose, quite the opposite of you that picked the worst of my three sources for my case…

              2020 shows a very different picture.

              https://www.msnbc.com/know-your-value/how-women-voters-decided-2020-election-n1247746

              Edit: A little bonus

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            I’m sorry are you asking about white women voting for Republicans? Did you look at your first link? I suspect you’re conflating “women” with “white women”.

            That conflation is really what I’m talking about when I mention the racism of this country. It honestly was not meant to be pointed directly at the people here, I mean that stories abound about how “women” are solidly Democratic as a way to hide that the majority of white women are Republicans.

            Edit: But if you’re quibbling that 47% is not a majority when 42% voted for Democrats, you’re just wasting time. If only white women voted, Republicans would win.

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          Yes everything is zero sum. if I dispute you, I’m racist. Great way to have a fucking conversation. What I disputed had nothing to do with your race in any fucking way. Bye.

          FYI I went back and actually downvoted you just because you are intent on being like this instead of just correcting me if I’m wrong.

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            Obviously I’m the problem for pointing out WHY you’re so incorrect. There really is no way to sugarcoat it enough for you to do any sort of introspection. Once you cool down a bit from how mean I am, maybe you should think about why you thought White women voted for Democrats.

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          How about we concentrate on both things?

          However, this is one of the only articles I’ve seen on it, I don’t think there’s a LOT of focus on it, vs. all the many many posts/articles calling out white MAGAts. It’s still possible to discuss both things.

          Saying that this means everyone downvoting you is racist and all the white democrats are blaming blacks for everything “like always” is beyond disingenuous.

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            You’re right. Left out one piece though. This commenter is actually saying here that Obama is a huge racist too.

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                I’m not twisting anything. This article is about a thing Obama said, which you’re declaring as racist. You told me I was racist for agreeing with the article, which by the way I literally never did. I just disputed your separate claim. Not every issue is a binary choice between two positions and this is a perfect example of that fallacy.

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            And of course if you haven’t seen other articles that means they don’t exist.

            One might note that I said this country is racist. I called the people down voting me tiresome. The first is an obvious fact. The second is an understandable opinion.

            I don’t suppose you remember California Prop 8. But feel free to get your feelings hurt because I mentioned racism rather than actually trying to understand what I said.

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              OK, are you claiming that there are more articles blaming and calling out black republicans than those calling out white MAGAts?