• Epilektoi_Hoplitai@lemmy.ca
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    “Purebloods Stand Together,”

    “right of protection and preservation of … the vessels of the souls of my children.”

    Yeah, NBD, just a new cult religion forming in real time here.

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      That is not just a cult. This seems to be a case of outright Nazis. Notice how they are seig heiling in the article image:

      seig heil from article

      But I wanted to draw particular attention to your quote. Count how many words are in it. Notice that it’s 14. It’s a dogwhistle for the 14 words. Here is a comparison:

      “We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children”

      “right of protection and preservation of … the vessels of the souls of my children.”

      The group are clearly neo-Nazis and the reporters are not doing themselves justice by leaving this unsaid. The reporters should do more research on the codewords that neo-Nazis use to stay under the radar. In other words, when you are covering extremists, hire people who have studied extremism.

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        So, for the “seig heil” photo, three people have their arms up. Two of them have their arms angled forward (could be Nazi) but with clenched fists (not Nazi), and the third is waving. The arm angled forward with a clenched fist is reminiscent of the black power salute. If we’re inferring politics from stances, we could say these dudes are Nazi Black Panthers.

        And for the 14 words: notice the ellipsis in the middle of the quote. That means the journalist dropped some words to condense the text. Does that mean the writer is a Nazi? Probably not.

        Like other people said: not everybody we disagree with is a Nazi. They are wrong for a bunch of very obvious reasons, so focus on those.

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          I have to agree - looking at the full quote in the article and ignoring the [and], I count 19 words, plus whatever was omitted. And that isn’t a seig heil in the photo.

          Is this a collection of idiots and (probably) some bad actors? Yeah. Do white nationalist groups recruit people of this kind? Absolutely. Is the term “Pureblood” troubling, given all the eugenic overtones it carries? 100%, though I’m willing to note the connotation of ‘not adulterated by artificial means’ too.

          The information in the article does not support this being a Nazi thing. Damaging and troubling in its own right, sure, but for different reasons.

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          Not everyone we disagree with is a Nazi… everyone who agrees with Nazis is a Nazi though and echoing the 14 words while using terms like pure blood leaves no doubt who they support.

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              Ya, this is where you expose yourself as a Nazi defender. No one believes that’s a coincidence or mistake. If that’s the approach you’re taking, you’d be wise to assume that not everyone is as dumb as you.

              Note, I pointed out that it echoed, which is done so people like you think they have an opening to defend it. It’s a pathetic cover that only the most ignorant would believe.

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                The full quote has 19 words:

                “right of protection and preservation of the vessels of my bloodline [and] … the vessels of the souls of my children.”

                Someone doesn’t become a Nazi because of an edited quote.

                I’m not a Nazi (defender) because I’m disagreeing with you.

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        Although I disagree with the anti-vaccine movement and I hate that they’re undermining the public perception of science and all the vaccines advances brought to public health, calling them nazis or fascists is counter-productive and minimizes the atrocities and horrors the Jewish people faced.