I forgot an important note on the “morality” point.
It might not always be obvious to non-vegans, but Veganism is not a diet. It actually is a moral compass. To make this more clear, let me copy you some of the “definition of veganism”:
“Veganism is a philosophy and way of living which seeks to exclude—as far as is possible and practicable—all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose; […]”
That is veganism. Nothing more, nothing less. The things we collectively do as vegans are just consequences of internalizing this philosophy and acting according to it.
That’s why the topic of “morality” often comes up in discussion with vegans, but for an outsider going that route might sound a little far-fetched. But it actually isn’t - it is at the core of our actions.
It is. But in the mind of these people, this is a valid concern and we need to be able to lead them away from this mindset. We have to guide them to new insights, not fight them over it. (Not that I would imply that YOU were trying to fight.)
I would like to give you the chance to see it from our perspective:
If you would see something fundamentally wrong in the streets/online, wouldn’t you speak up about it?
Like for example, someone boasts online that they steal from a local family business every day and on their way out, they punch the owners kid in the face. And others are even rooting for that person in the comment section. - You would still speak up about it, wouldn’t you? You would try to set that person straight.
As vegans, we came to the conclusion that using and exploiting animals is a wrong thing to do. We’ve seen too many horrible things while experiencing the gentleness and kindness of these animals. We have sworn ourselfs to change our ways to not be part of that anymore and we try to fight for them - as they are not able to do it on their own. We speak up about the injustice that we perceive - just as you would do in the other instance.
We know that we are annoying because of that, annoying because we speak up. The people that try to break the echo chamber are always considered annoying. But we can’t help it. We need to do something at least.
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I forgot an important note on the “morality” point.
It might not always be obvious to non-vegans, but Veganism is not a diet. It actually is a moral compass. To make this more clear, let me copy you some of the “definition of veganism”:
That is veganism. Nothing more, nothing less. The things we collectively do as vegans are just consequences of internalizing this philosophy and acting according to it.
That’s why the topic of “morality” often comes up in discussion with vegans, but for an outsider going that route might sound a little far-fetched. But it actually isn’t - it is at the core of our actions.
Just wanted to put that out there.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t this considered a logical falicy?
It is. But in the mind of these people, this is a valid concern and we need to be able to lead them away from this mindset. We have to guide them to new insights, not fight them over it. (Not that I would imply that YOU were trying to fight.)
I would like to give you the chance to see it from our perspective:
If you would see something fundamentally wrong in the streets/online, wouldn’t you speak up about it?
Like for example, someone boasts online that they steal from a local family business every day and on their way out, they punch the owners kid in the face. And others are even rooting for that person in the comment section. - You would still speak up about it, wouldn’t you? You would try to set that person straight.
As vegans, we came to the conclusion that using and exploiting animals is a wrong thing to do. We’ve seen too many horrible things while experiencing the gentleness and kindness of these animals. We have sworn ourselfs to change our ways to not be part of that anymore and we try to fight for them - as they are not able to do it on their own. We speak up about the injustice that we perceive - just as you would do in the other instance.
We know that we are annoying because of that, annoying because we speak up. The people that try to break the echo chamber are always considered annoying. But we can’t help it. We need to do something at least.