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    Once again… the classic argument of: “Well, I grew up using this system, and I’m used to the system. I have built an internal intuition for how hot and cold the temperature is. I am used to >100 being hot! 40 is not hot!”

    Well then. I grew up using celcius and… “IT’S FOURTY FUCKING ONE DEGREES OUTSIDE?” sounds just as hot.

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    That’s why I only use Kelvin. 314.15 sounds like 3 times more “WTF HOW HOT IS TODAY??!?” than your paltry 107

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    Fuck it. I’m inventing a new scale.

    Behold! “Disagree Degrees”. We’re going to combine the best traits of the other units. No more searching for the stupid little degree character in the character map. D for degrees or disagrees - whatever, I don’t give a shit.

    0D = 0K (Like Kelvin, no negatives! That’s so dumb!) 0.4D = -40 C and -40 F 1D = Water Freezing point (Need a consistent point of scale) 10D = “Pleasant temperature” 100D = Kind of hot 500D = Really hot for people (>40C or >100F) “It’s like 500 disagrees out there!” 1000D= Water boiling (To match the freezing temp) 1,000,000,000,000D = Surface of the sun

    Good luck on the math converting to other units, this temperature scale isn’t about being useful for nerd stuff, it’s all about appealing to our emotions.

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    I present the temperature scale that I made up- the Human Scale (H°)

    I thought about the Fahrenheit vs Celsius debate, and I think both have practical uses, however I think combined they could make a very practical scale.

    Fahrenheit: while my American sensibilities agree that 100° is a good marker for what % of my patience is used up to cut a bitch, I think a similar place would be the average human body temperature. For this reason, 100°H = 98.6°F . It’s not a perfect match, but it can still give us the satisfaction of “IT’S 100°!?” while having practical implications for medical uses “your body temperature is 102°, 2° warmer than average”.

    Celsius: I think this scale makes a ton of sense for colder temperatures. When the thermometer reads 0°, that’s when you can expect snow. For this reason, 0°H = 0°C.

    The conversation rates are:

    H = (F-32) × 1.5

    H= C × 2.7

    More precise is

    H = (F-32) × 1.501501501…

    H = C × 2.7027027027…

    While using the freezing point of water and the average human body temperature seem like inconsistent and arbitrary benchmarks, my goal is less about consistency and more about practicality for everyday use.

    Now watch this scale grow as big as Esperanto.

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    “Bigger number is more better” also explains American sports where you get 3 points for running a bit and then play stops for an ad break and the national anthem.

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    41° is “mild” to me as a Celsius user only because my country is too fucking hot in the first place.

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    YOU’RE BOILING?!?

    Oh, you’re just an inbecile who likes to prove the movie Idiocracy is actually a documentary.

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    0 Degrees Farenhight = very cold, 100 Defrees Farenhight = very hot

    0 Degrees Celcius = very cold, 100 Degrees Celcius = dead

    0 Degrees Kelvin = dead, 100 Degrees Kelvin = also dead…

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      Yeah, but it hits different. Smaller number is smaller.

      That’s why I use Kelvin. THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTEEN DEGREES?!!

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      100%

      It’s just Americans having American perspectives promoted as world views.

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        It’s about crossing into triple digits, a new order of magnitude, it feels heavy.

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          But it’s also underwhelming when your usual reference for over 100 is, “WHAT IT’S HOT ENOUGH TO BOIL WATER OUTSIDE!?”

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          American: IT’S A HUNDRED AND SEVEN DEGREES OUTSIDE

          Civilized people: no it fucking ain’t, you overdramatic princess

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        brother, that’s what a world view is lmao, do you not understand this concept?

        Most of us don’t really go anywhere outside of the US, the entire continental US is the literal equivalent of the collective EU. What do you want me to say? I literally don’t need to leave to US to experience something geographically unique.

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            im pretty sure the world’s view would be that we’re parasites destroying the well balanced nature of the ecology of the earth, but that’s just me.

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          geographically unique

          Geographically perhaps. But the cultural and historical unique is something you are going to miss out on by staying inside your own home country for your entire life. You think your US regional differences are the same as the differences between two countries, but anyone who has experienced different countries will tell you in an instant that that is not so.

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            i mean culturally in terms of outside of the continental US sure. There’s plenty of interesting and unique culture within the US if you just go looking for it. Though a lot of it is going to be somewhat westernized in essence. If you want more eastern culture, obviously you’re going to have to go farther east, but i feel like that’s a given.

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      On the other hand, if it was 107°C outside, the outrage would be so much more justified.

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      It’s that extra “one” of incredulity.

      40 degrees, that’s just too hot.

      41? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me.

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          We’re more familiar with 5.56x45mm thanks to all our school shootings thank you very much.

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            In the same way a US ton and a metric ton is like 10% different, a 556 bullet is actually 5.7 mm across.

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              Because the minor diameter of the barrel is 5.56 mm and the major diameter is 5.69 mm. If the bullet were smaller than that then the propellant would blow past it. They didn’t make a 'murican millimetre like they did with the imperial system.

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            I would make a bet that more mass shootings are done with 9mm. Depending on which shootings they consider ‘mass’ I see estimates from 60-80% for handgun usage. I’m sure the cheap .22 is a large number, but 9mm is probably right up there. There is a large bias in reporting the school shootings and shootings involving rifles by the media. They almost ignore the others.

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        In point of fact Americans have gotten impressive results out of far more complicated metrics than metric. It’s not a matter of understanding, it’s a matter of pride. And of not having to buy all new tools.

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        The best system would have 0 at a mild, comfortable temperature, and go up or down by 100 degrees per one degrees Fahrenheit.

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          But mild and comfortable is different for different people who are acclimated to different weather.

          We need a defined ‘mild’ temperature. i vote for 70F/21C.
          It’s a bit chilly for the warm weathered folks and a bit warm for the cold weathered folks. Seems reasonable but I’m open to suggestions.

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            I’d adjust it to 68/20 just so it lines up with whole numbers in both systems. And on second thought, make it 90 per degree Fahrenheit so any whole F or C value can convert to a whole number.

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            it needs to be a range, you can’t really just have a single point, something like 50f to 70f would be good. Some people like a little below, some people like a little above, the 60s are generally pretty comfy all around though.

            We also need to consider clothing as well. Which i do in this case.

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        You can absolutely yell about that. And when Fahrenheit flips to negative, you’re ready to express some big feelings about how fucking cold it is.

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      And Rankine would be even better than Kelvin in terms of “big number go brrr.” Water boils at 671 R.

      Of course, Rankine is the most obnoxious unit I’ve ever had to deal with, but those numbers sure are big!

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      OK, but with Rankine, if it’s 101 out, you can go Five Hundred and SIXTY degrees??!

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      Please raise this temperature by 1.4x10^-23 Joules - statements of the utterly deranged

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        Joules are energy. You need thermal capacity to turn them into temperature.