Turkey has formally asked to join the BRICS group of emerging-market nations as it seeks to bolster its global influence and forge new ties beyond its traditional Western allies, according to people familiar with the matter.
That’s the same logic as saying Capitalism is voluntary because workers agree to work for their wages. Such analysis sees the subservience in a vacuum devoid of external pressures or developmental practices.
NATO was formed to be anti-USSR, after the collapse of which the Russian Federation tried to join NATO, and was denied. The RF then complained about NATO expansion, which had not ceased.
Regardless of whether or not you believe Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is justified or villianous, it was provoked by NATO expansion, as admitted by NATO leaders themselves.
NATO was formed to be anti-USSR, after the collapse of which the Russian Federation tried to join NATO, and was denied.
in the same way the us wouldn’t be allowed to join csto
The RF then complained about NATO expansion, which had not ceased.
i don’t see how it’s nato’s fault that people are so sick of russia’s shit that they’re signing up to the defensive alliance against them in their droves
it was provoked by NATO expansion
nato expansion that existed because of russian land grabs
nato isn’t the warsaw pact. they aren’t sending in tanks to force people to be a part of their alliance.
this is just you doing the thing you accused me of doing by refusing to consider externalities
NATO didn’t start after 2022
russia didn’t start misbehavin’ after 2022 either
many of its leaders were Nazi officers
east germany was part of the warsaw pact, and had plenty of ex-nazis in its ranks
the reason you can’t draw a line from that to today is because the ussr folded like a cheap suit 30 years ago
it has always been a way to exert Western supremacy
in the same way the us wouldn’t be allowed to join csto
Have NATO countries complained of CSTO expansion? Has the US been denied entry into CSTO? Has the CSTO expanded against the will of NATO?
i don’t see how it’s nato’s fault that people are so sick of russia’s shit that they’re signing up to the defensive alliance against them in their droves
It’s NATO’s fault for consisting of the absolutely most grotesque reaches of Imperialist countries, and expanding against the wishes of non-NATO countries.
nato expansion that existed because of russian land grabs
Bzzzt wrong. NATO has been expanding long before.
this is just you doing the thing you accused me of doing by refusing to consider externalities
Quite the contrary, you’re deliberately erasing historical context.
russia didn’t start misbehavin’ after 2022 either
When and why did Russia start “misbehavin?”
east germany was part of the warsaw pact, and had plenty of ex-nazis in its ranks
Whataboutism, lmao. East-Germany purged Nazis, that’s one of the reasons the west complains that the GDR was authoritarian. NATO was led by Nazis.
Anyone that considers themselves a good person cannot be *pro-*NATO. You can disagree with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine without being pro-NATO.
east germany was part of the warsaw pact, and had plenty of ex-nazis in its ranks
Lmfao the fourth reich west germany literally had more nazis leading it in its government than during the third reich. The socialist states did the opposite and purged nazis — obviously, since fascism is actually a threat to socialist states whereas it’s more of an asset to capitalists with them able to scapegoat marginalized people for capitalism’s faults the more prevalent it is.
Fully 77 percent of senior ministry officials in 1957 were former members of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi party, a higher proportion even than during the 1933-45 Third Reich, the study found.
From 1949 to 1973, 90 of the 170 leading lawyers and judges in the then-West German Justice Ministry had been members of the Nazi Party.
Of those 90 officials, 34 had been members of the Sturmabteilung (SA), Nazi Party paramilitaries who aided Hitler’s rise and took part in Kristallnacht, a night of violence that is believed to have left 91 Jewish people dead.
NATO is essentially a gang of Imperialist countries combining strength to maintain their Imperialist status militarily.
even if that was an accurate description of nato, that’s not an accurate description of a protection racket
It is both. NATO spreads in a rent-seeking manner.
no it isn’t, and also, it’s rent-seeking by having countries ask to join? yes this makes sense
That’s the same logic as saying Capitalism is voluntary because workers agree to work for their wages. Such analysis sees the subservience in a vacuum devoid of external pressures or developmental practices.
in this case the external pressure is a rogue state doing a cheeky land grab on its neighbor
i’m not sure why that’s nato’s fault, although i’m very excited that you’re about to tell me
NATO was formed to be anti-USSR, after the collapse of which the Russian Federation tried to join NATO, and was denied. The RF then complained about NATO expansion, which had not ceased.
Regardless of whether or not you believe Russia’s invasion of Ukraine is justified or villianous, it was provoked by NATO expansion, as admitted by NATO leaders themselves.
NATO didn’t start after 2022, many of its leaders were Nazi officers and it has always been a way to exert Western supremacy.
in the same way the us wouldn’t be allowed to join csto
i don’t see how it’s nato’s fault that people are so sick of russia’s shit that they’re signing up to the defensive alliance against them in their droves
nato expansion that existed because of russian land grabs
nato isn’t the warsaw pact. they aren’t sending in tanks to force people to be a part of their alliance.
this is just you doing the thing you accused me of doing by refusing to consider externalities
russia didn’t start misbehavin’ after 2022 either
east germany was part of the warsaw pact, and had plenty of ex-nazis in its ranks
the reason you can’t draw a line from that to today is because the ussr folded like a cheap suit 30 years ago
you’re just kind of saying things now
Have NATO countries complained of CSTO expansion? Has the US been denied entry into CSTO? Has the CSTO expanded against the will of NATO?
It’s NATO’s fault for consisting of the absolutely most grotesque reaches of Imperialist countries, and expanding against the wishes of non-NATO countries.
Bzzzt wrong. NATO has been expanding long before.
Quite the contrary, you’re deliberately erasing historical context.
When and why did Russia start “misbehavin?”
Whataboutism, lmao. East-Germany purged Nazis, that’s one of the reasons the west complains that the GDR was authoritarian. NATO was led by Nazis.
Anyone that considers themselves a good person cannot be *pro-*NATO. You can disagree with Russia’s invasion of Ukraine without being pro-NATO.
Lmfao
the fourth reichwest germany literally had more nazis leading it in its government than during the third reich. The socialist states did the opposite and purged nazis — obviously, since fascism is actually a threat to socialist states whereas it’s more of an asset to capitalists with them able to scapegoat marginalized people for capitalism’s faults the more prevalent it is.You can’t argue with these people. I’m starting to learn the hard way.
There is literally an entire “argument” under this comment between these two lmao wtf are you on about