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    2 months ago

    0% chance that the feds don’t have Signal backdoors, otherwise Wired wouldn’t be promoting it. fyi everyone Proton is CIA. It’s modern cryptoAG.

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      https://community.signalusers.org/t/overview-of-third-party-security-audits/13243

      https://freedom.press/newsletter/crossfire-over-messaging-security/

      https://freedom.press/training/locking-down-signal/

      You don’t have to take Signal’s word for it, because it’s been audited. The EFF, who are VERY privacy minded, and do extensive research into this type of thing, recommends Signal because it’s known to be secure.

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        Does the EFF have access to signal’s server? Where they store all the phone numbers and messages for its users?

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      Well, I disagree about Signal. Proton however, I agree is extremely shady and should be avoided at all costs.

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        2 months ago

        That’s pretty strong and I’ve never seen or heard anything like it before. If it’s true I’m betting the rest of Lemmy would like some details, too.

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          No support for Monero despite it being requested on uservoice 6 years ago. A Bitcoin wallet (seriously?) which is easily traceable. Important email metadata is also not zero access encrypted (i.e., subject headers, from/to headers) which leaks a substantial amount of information even if the body is encrypted. Not to mention they had clearnet redirects from their onion service a while back, something a lot of honeypots usually do.

          Even if it’s not a honeypot, you’re sure as hell not getting any privacy with Proton. That’s for sure.

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            You can’t e2e the to and from headers in an email. that’s a problem with the protocol, not with proton. I’d assume the subject line falls into a similar bucket, because mailservers probably want to use it to filter spam

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              2 months ago

              I never said anything about E2EE. Please re-read what I wrote carefully.

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      Centralized service with servers in the US, requires a phone number to create an account, and tech bros like it. “0% chance” 100% confirmed.