• FALGSConaut [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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        Judging by the number of western vehicles lost to mines in the last few weeks alone they do not perform the same fighting a peer military with access to large amounts of modern equipment vs ill equipped militias fighting an insurgency

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            No, but they haven’t faced massive minefields, helicopter gunships, artillery, electronic countermeasures, airstrikes, etc when occupying Iraq or Afghanistan. Fighting guerrillas and fighting a peer army are two entirely different beasts, and we see the proof in more western tanks being lost in 2 months than USA lost in 2 decades in Iraq or Afghanistan

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              Also, America keeps losing wars to those guerilla fighters let alone an army with actual military doctorine

      • A butter knife works the same when cutting butter or steel. It still isn’t useful for cutting steel. This is what they’re trying to communicate.

        A reaper drone works the same when blowing up random weddings or when flying in airspace with a networked AA system of S300s, S400s, and S500s

        Which is to say we know the underlying physics continues to operate the same but the context changes how useful the equipment is, because a butterknife is made for butter and a Reaper is made for blowing up weddings without an air defense network nearby.

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        I do find these comments entertaining. It reinforces my belief that US hubris is leading to it’s decline. Imagine believing your own lies when its literally your country’s existence on the line.

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          … K

          We clearly have fundamental, serious issues – but you’d have to be completely delusional if “actual millitary strength” is something you think the USA lacks and Russia is anyway comparable. They’re in a stalemate with with a small country using 40 year old western equipment.

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            The US lost Afghanistan where their enemies had no airsupport and old equipmemt and weren’t being supplied by the global hegemon. They also lost Vietnam which they fought a much smaller less well equipped country.

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            So it seems you aren’t aware about the $50 billion of military hardware, training, mercenaries, and aid that NATO have provided Ukraine since 2014. Are you being disingeneous for the sake of winning the argument or are you acting in good faith? I need to know whether I should continue to engage or if you’re just trolling/playing dumb.