• sharedburdens [comrade/them, any]@hexbear.net
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    People were calling for them to intervene immediately after the coup in 2014 and they didn’t. Doesn’t mean that wasn’t still the reason for the intervention years later.

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      coup in 2014

      Ватник отъебись сказал мне не слушаешь урод

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          A special electoral operation. Yanukovich reneged on election promises, people didn’t like that and protested, he tried to turn Ukraine into a dictatorship, people liked that even less and protested even more, NATO sent… politicians, to negotiate compromises, protesters wanted to hear nothing about that, Yanukovich fled to his masters in Russia, got removed from office because AWOL, brief interim government, promptly followed by new elections which is how those kinds of iffy situations get solved in democracies.

          You used the OSCE as a source previously, pray tell me what does the OSCE say about the following elections?

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              EU association agreement.

              Noone gives a flying fuck about the IMF.

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                  Noone gives a fuck whether the IMF gets what it wants or not. Not even the IMF in that case they simply don’t give out money.

                  Also, the loan condition was about stopping to subsidise gas to be sold to consumers at below market price. Not sell off Anatonov or something.

                  Also the people have spoken. Pray tell, again, did you have a look at what the OSCE said about those elections? Seems to me like the Ukrainian electorate thought that the whole EU and not going bankrupt thing was worth paying realistic utility bills.

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                    Noone gives a fuck whether the IMF gets what it wants or not. Not even the IMF in that case they simply don’t give out money.

                    weird how when they don’t get what they want there always seems to be some sort of intervention, financial or military against the offending party. Clearly there is no cause and effect that can ever be associated in the liberal mind.

                    , did you have a look at what the OSCE said about those elections?

                    The election took place in the context of ongoing armed conflict and other hostilities in the east of the country and the illegal annexation of the Crimean Peninsula by the Russian Federation. As a consequence, the election could not be organized in Crimea and certain parts of Donetsk and Luhansk regions that are controlled by illegal armed groups.

                    Weird, so almost like there was an active war going on the whole time and the elections only reflected the most western-aligned people. Again, cause and effect are literally impossible to connect in the liberal mind.