• samus12345@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Yes, that’s the reality of the situation, whether you like it or not. If you don’t care if that happens, fair enough. But don’t try to say that not voting for Biden doesn’t help Trump.

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      I didn’t say that. I said that at this point, months into this debacle, it’s obviously not persuasive to me. I am not willing to sell the lives of Palestinian children to make my life marginally more comfortable.

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          You can’t get extra dead. Here’s the IPC’s take on Gaza right now-

          The famine threshold for household acute food insecurity has already been far exceeded and, given the latest data showing a steeply increasing trend in cases of acute malnutrition, it is highly likely that the famine threshold for acute malnutrition has also been exceeded. The upward trend in non-trauma mortality is also expected to accelerate, resulting in all famine thresholds likely to be passed imminently.

          Those kids aren’t going to be alive in November.

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              I freely admit he won’t help them. I’m also telling you it won’t matter by then because you can’t be extra dead.

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                Helping elect the guy who wants all the Palestinians dead so his son-in-law can have beach front property, while also making everything else worse isn’t the moral high ground you seen to think it is.

                And no, whatever third option you’re talking about isn’t going to win.

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                  It’s not an either/or question. There isn’t some secret vote where Trump gets points for disaffected Democrats. And the other choice is to just not. Or Biden could follow the laws of our country and stop supplying a genocide, and stop fucking with asylum. At this point he’s going the wrong way for me to vote for him.

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        Those children will die regardless of who you vote for or if you don’t vote at all. It’s a horrific tragedy that is completely out of anyone who isn’t in power’s control. So instead of worrying about that, worry about what you CAN control - preventing fascists from gaining more power and making things even worse than they already are.

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          No a tragedy is a plane crash. A tragedy is a tornado directly hitting the school gym everyone sheltered in.

          This is a war crime, a massacre, an act so vile that civilized countries have agreed it should not be done, ever.

          And we do not have to be complicit.

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              We can control our complicity. Politicians can be brought to heel. Saying we can’t do it is just another way of excusing ourselves from worrying about what our leadership is doing.

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        I’d be willing to bet you couldn’t point to Palestine on a map this time last year.

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          I bet you don’t know who I am, what I went to college for, or where I was before college. Because you’re very wrong.

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            I’ll bet I know what you don’t know. And that’s where Palestine was on the map prior to October 7th.