There are a lot of tanky posts coming from lemmy.ml. Their whole purpose seems to be to troll and spread their bullshit far and wide. They are nearly as bad as the alt-right. They argue in bad faith and celebrate authoritarian oppression. The beehaw mods might want to consider defederating.
Seconded, or thirded, or whatever. I’ve only just realized that lemmy.ml posts are the reason I’ve kept a healthy distance from this place during the last couple of weeks. Is that instance like a testbed / launchpad for China’s latest trollbots?
Same, once I blocked it and hexbear lemmy went back to being a better version of reddit again. Substantially less shitpost and bad faith baiting.
You’d probably be better off going to an instance that defederates from those instances from the get-go.
I signed up before I understood lemmy. I was considering bitching to the fediverse community about it. It’s pretty unintuitive how this all works to an outsider. Given beehaws philosophy I was considering migrating there because of this thread tbh. I will consider it tho cheers.
For what it’s worth, I have a couple accounts on Fediverse. I’m wolf_shadowheart on Kbin and SlrPnk.net, and the two of those act as the “unfiltered fediverse” and here on Beehaw is much more community discussion oriented. While our threads about specific brand new games or deep-cut niche content isn’t very full, we have lots of early-Internet question answer threads which are very nice.
Slrpnk.net isn’t defederated from much but I also use it the least. Note: The pnk.net community itself is great. It’s the wider fedi it’s attached too. There’s so much… trash? Lemmy.World may have the most users, but it has the least soul. They seem to be the redd-t equivalent of those communities, but with far fewer content posts and mostly comment posts (which I get, that’s me too.) and unfortunately as a result, these communities get heavily skewed by the type of guy on the left (the critic) while most of us are just on the right trying to enjoy stuff and maybe talk about some of the deeper implications.
Kbin is on the full opposite end with no moderation. I don’t really use blocking features, but goddamn if I have to do it to kill spam accounts. When it’s good, it’s nice and I use it in tandem with Beehaw. When it’s bad it’s really rough (just spam mostly) it gets really hard.
Anyway Tl;DR using multiple accounts isn’t a bad thing as it lets you experience multiple levels of curation. The way I use them, Beehaw is most curated, Kbin is second most curated, Slrpnk.net is least curated.
That’s actually a great suggestion. I thought of it as “I need to pick a new home to move to” but looks super simple on voyager to switch between accounts. I technically still have my kbin with the same user (and also see kbin in the modlog a lot lol). Thanks for the tips and suggestions!!
Happy to share :) Enjoy and hope to see you around, whatever you may decide!
Jesus that took me down a rabbit hole. I’ll likely see you in the new site/hopefully lemmy gets forked. What a disappointment the devs turned out to be.
Ahh so sorry to hear! Yeah, I admit the spam has been pretty bad lately and it’s definitely made the already small community quite a bit harder to participate in. We will find something, someday, all 4 real human beings of us!
I started on kbin.world and really liked it, there are several features I much prefer on Kbin vs Lemmy like being able to see the activity log for comments and posts. Unfortunately I wouldn’t recommend new users start there anymore. Ernest is awesome but it seems like he’s got some stuff going on IRL and he doesn’t seem to want to share development responsibilities. He was accepting some more help and putting together a small team so maybe it’s gotten better since I switched to lemm.ee but especially back around December and January there were periods where he was absent for extended periods and issues weren’t getting fixed until they had some time to snowball into big issues and he was stuck spending more time on playing catchup from that than working on improvements. I didn’t try Mbin but it seems like that might be the better choice for the time being if someone wanted to start using that part of the fediverse.
Yeah it seems Ernest has been on another break. From what I’ve heard, Mbin is a little combative in how/why they created it and the alternative ones never really called to me. I’d agree with you though. The main issue with Kbin right now is honestly just that accounts can be created freely, and that’s only because it makes it so easy for spam accounts to post about selling/buying drugs online flooding /m/tech and /m/opensource and a bunch of others.
However, I do think a push was made recently that we can ask to take over dead magazines (subs), so community can sort of step up now if that gets seen and approved.
Tbf I think the new design of join-lemmy.org makes it easier to choose an instance, but it doesn’t show what instances are defederated and such (it probably shouldn’t either?). I think that’s okay and you just have to learn what instance fits well for you over time.
After all, a big point of the Fediverse is cheap switching costs between platforms. Don’t expect the first place you try to be the last place you try and don’t be afraid of moving and trying somewhere else :)
I wouldn’t be surprised. The CCP is keen on building a ChatGPT style LLM on its own. Their traditional SNS is WeChat, which was a WhatsApp alternative, and thus was not as powerful as Reddit.
They are investing in Reddit alternatives I read, and they want these SNSes to be pro-CCP because that’s how they’d enforce their LLM to be pro-CCP. .ml and the Lemmy code project itself would be a perfect example.