“Would the U.S. respond?” ABC News Chief White House Correspondent Mary Bruce asked repeatedly as the president walked away after the end of an unrelated event. He paused, thought for a moment and then returned to the lectern.

“We are devoted to the defense of Israel. We will support Israel. We will help defend Israel and Iran will not succeed,” he said.

According to one U.S. defense official, the assets being moved to the region include both “ships and aircraft.”

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    Israel was founded on a zionist mission, which has always been in contradiction with the existence and independence of the Palestinian people. I’m not sure I see a reason to doubt a poll showing support for a war against Palestine, except possibly a poll that shows support for the means of that war, but then again that’s the US’s stance too: they support the war, but disagree with the optics and methods used.

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      So what? And America was founded on manifest destiny. It doesn’t mean Americans born today want to wipe out the native Americans. We can’t ascribe the sins of our grandfathers to our children. A great deal of Israeli people were actively against settlements and for a two state solution before Oct 7. This is a fact that has to be contended with and can’t be ignored.

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          You’re missing the point of my comment because you’re fixated on the suffering and expansion. I’ll repeat myself in case it wasn’t clear: we cannot ascribe the sins of the grandfathers to the children. A big percentage of Israeli population already vehemently opposes settlements and expansion.

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            7 months ago

            I’m fixated on the suffering and expansion because it’s currently happening

            I’m not ascribing the sins of a past generation onto a new one, I’m pointing to the sins of the current generation

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              Ok. You’re getting lost in the sauce and you’re doing it on purpose at this point. In talking about the significant contingent of Israeli people that oppose settlements.

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                What is the point of opposing settlements when what little territory Palestinians have is being actively occupied and being subjected to an apartheid regime?

                The majority of Israelis support the continuation of that situation, and a third support the annexation of occupied territory under Israeli rule.

                Opposition to settlements is a little impotent when their government is actively undermining the security of Palestinians behind a blockade. I don’t get the relevance.

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                  Bro whatever I don’t care. I just commented on the validity of polls, then you pivoted to the Zionist mission and now were back to quoting polls full circle. Whatever you say man. Im talking to the wind. Idgaf any more.

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        Technically America was founded on proto-manifest destiny, fuck britain, and keeping the thirteen colonies from killing eachother and being reconquered