At CinemaCon this year, the Motion Picture Association Chairman and CEO Charles Rivkin said the organization is going to work with Congress to establish and enforce a site-blocking legislation in the United States.
If you write or produce them yourself: sure. If you “bought” them: no, you do not own them. You own a license to them. You do not have the right to do what you please with either, removing DRM from either is either a crime or a reason to revoke your license, and you absolutely cannot upload that ebook or MP3 to the internet like you could with something you actually own.
Movies are very much the same. We don’t have many services that legally let you download MP4s (which is possible for music and ebooks), but the copyright situation is no different.
You’re confusing ownership of media with ownership of copyright. I’m not suggesting that I can buy an mp3 and reshare it (or the same for an ebook), that’s a violation of copyright. I’ve never suggested that buying them lets me remove DRM, re-share, etc. It’s a strawman argument that you and conciselyverbose seem very attached to, but not an argument I’m making.
Ownership is not strictly limited to physical items, and I’m very curious why people think it is. There’s significant outstanding case law precedent that proves that ownership can apply to digital files as well.
Subscribe to netflix, put up flyers that you are streaming all of Ozark all week for free at your house. Then tell Netflix that you’re doing it. Let me know what happens.
Try it with a blu-ray and alert the copyright holder. Try it with a CD of your favorite album and alert the record company. Again: free, at your home, your physical or digital media you “own.” See what happens.
I never said it was unethical. I said it violates the license,which it does.
Do I think it’s bullshit? Absolutely. Do not paint me as anti-consumer, anti-ownership, or even anti-piracy. I’m saying what reality is.
We don’t own shit when it comes to music and movies and that’s a serious problem. Arguing with me doesn’t change that. I am saying we need to fix this.
If you write or produce them yourself: sure. If you “bought” them: no, you do not own them. You own a license to them. You do not have the right to do what you please with either, removing DRM from either is either a crime or a reason to revoke your license, and you absolutely cannot upload that ebook or MP3 to the internet like you could with something you actually own.
Movies are very much the same. We don’t have many services that legally let you download MP4s (which is possible for music and ebooks), but the copyright situation is no different.
You’re confusing ownership of media with ownership of copyright. I’m not suggesting that I can buy an mp3 and reshare it (or the same for an ebook), that’s a violation of copyright. I’ve never suggested that buying them lets me remove DRM, re-share, etc. It’s a strawman argument that you and conciselyverbose seem very attached to, but not an argument I’m making.
Ownership is not strictly limited to physical items, and I’m very curious why people think it is. There’s significant outstanding case law precedent that proves that ownership can apply to digital files as well.
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Subscribe to netflix, put up flyers that you are streaming all of Ozark all week for free at your house. Then tell Netflix that you’re doing it. Let me know what happens.
Try it with a blu-ray and alert the copyright holder. Try it with a CD of your favorite album and alert the record company. Again: free, at your home, your physical or digital media you “own.” See what happens.
This guy really thinks watch parties and listening to music with friends over is illegal or unethical or some shit.
I never said it was unethical. I said it violates the license,which it does.
Do I think it’s bullshit? Absolutely. Do not paint me as anti-consumer, anti-ownership, or even anti-piracy. I’m saying what reality is.
We don’t own shit when it comes to music and movies and that’s a serious problem. Arguing with me doesn’t change that. I am saying we need to fix this.
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That link just takes me to a kbin login page.
https://kbin.social/m/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com/t/952608/The-Motion-Picture-Association-will-work-with-Congress-to-start#entry-comment-6130949