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I imagine there are a lot of homeless people in the US that would appreciate that air drop
What would it take to make you happy my man?
Honestly for me…both. I know what I am capable of as a human. I know what I am capable of with a team. I know what I am capable of with a community. I know what I am capable of with a state. I know what I am capable of with a nation. The answer is both. And it’s the only correct answer to your question.
Your comment missed the point of what the person you’re replying to is try to say.
That person wasn’t saying anything of substance, they were being flippant. It’s crazy how defensive people get. We can easily feed both groups of people, but we choose not to. That’s the truth.
I get down voted for saying what American foreign policy is lol. It’s already a done deal.
My brain is finally starting to fully develop at 32…I don’t understand this shit. What’s the point? Genuinely I want a reason for both sides in the matter. What’s the single sentence argument for both sides. No inflamitory talking points.
Without going too far into history, one side is tired of living in an open air prison and the other side is tired of terrorist attacks. It’s a self reinforcing conflict because neither side can win. Israel can’t bomb an idea and Hamas can’t terrorize an F-35 joint strike fighter.
Thank you for the response without chastising. My assertions were correct that Israel are essentially recreating operation Iraqi freedom with carte blanche? I get that it’s not your responsibility to educate me in this matter. I just have no clue what the fuck to believe based on vague internet opinions.
Iraqi freedom was a response to a single terrorist attack. Israel’s response is to decades of continuous attacks. While October was particularly bad, Hamas has been firing rockets and missiles indiscriminately into Israel on like a weekly basis for many years now. Israel has been able to protect themselves from this thanks to their Iron Dome defense system, but that doesn’t change the fact that they are shooting down rockets launched with the intent to kill their civilians.
On the flip side, Israel has been treating the Palestinians particularly badly. They severely restrict trade into and out of the area, restrict the travel of Palestinian civilians, and have been slowly stealing more and more territory from them by literally driving people from their homes, sometimes just straight up killing them. While claims of an “open air prison” are a bit hyperbolic, it’s not off by much.
Add to that a healthy dose of racism on both sides against the other and you are left with a massive mess that few people understand. There is plenty to hate on both sides because both sides have done, and continue to do, incredibly shitty things to each other. Neither Israel nor Hamas is right, and neither of them give a shit about the Palestinian civilians. Another issue is that the average civilian on both sides isn’t exactly dreaming of peace. Due to how long this has been going on for, if you took a random Israeli and a random Palestinian, odds are they would want to kill each other.
If this all seems exhausting and complicated and you aren’t sure what side is ‘right’, know that’s ok. Our minds are not made to be so globally connected, and while this conflict may be getting a lot of media attention, it’s hardly the worst conflict that’s occurred in living memory, and arguably not even the worst currently going on. It’s also likely also far removed from you. If you’re from the States, it’s literally on the other side of the world. Just know, there’s a shit ton of propaganda that really, REALLY wants you to pick a side and will paint the other as demons, when in reality both sides are pretty shitty.
I know this is a week old, but I really appreciate this reply. This was eye opening on a few levels. You took a great deal of time to illustrate what’s going on. Thank you.
Refreshing to read the comments here from reasonable people against the shocking genocide, nice change from the bloodthirsty savages on worldnews.
Was this lemmy or reddit?
reddit for sure
Seriously, wtf is up with that subreddit. I got banned for saying maybe it’s not ok to shoot people in hospitals.
I see we have a hamas supporter over here…
Reported for being a nazi zionist, enjoy your ban
Airdropping aid to get around a blockade imposed by the Israel…who depends on our military aid to genocide the Palestinians. This is the height of absurdity
eh. They don’t depend on that anymore.
They sure as hell depend on it.
Hamas has anti aircraft, but hopefully they won’t try anything.
Hamas’ rockets are glorified fireworks. They have no targeting system to hit moving aircraft, all of the calculations are done by hand.
SAM-7, Soviet-era Strela-2 IR launchers maybe old stuff, but they can still shoot you out of the sky, particularly at loòw altitude.
That’s not what Hamas uses. Their rockets are hand made.
I read that outline of weapons from a fellow from Gaza.
There are zero reasons why Hamas would prevent food and aid being delivered to the people they are fighting for. Might want to lighten up on the amount of BS propaganda you’re consuming.
My propaganda comes from people in Gaza, not Tick Tock.
Do the people in Gaza believe that there is a threat of Hamas destroying/seizing humanitarian aid? No! If anyone is going to stop it or destroy it it’s going to be Israel. The nation that won’t allow “include anesthetics and anesthesia machines, oxygen cylinders, ventilators and water filtration systems.”
It’s worth the read.
Hamas steals aid. https://youtu.be/NBjvYkNzuAA?feature=shared
Okay, and? Are you saying that’s reason for any and all aid deliveries to stop?
a threat of Hamas destroying/seizing humanitarian aid? No!
I believe he was answering this. Are we not allowed to say Hamas is bad?
Didn’t you hear?
They are actually freedom fighters and are noble! /s
Let’s just ignore how they are a misogynistic, homophobic, anti-trans, fascist, far-right extremist group.
? why would they shoot down aid going into gaza
See that carrier in the Mediterranean? Park that bitch right off the coast of Gaza and start shipping food and aid straight in, what the fuck is Israel going to do about it
I’ve said since the beginning that they should put one us soldier on each truck and roll on.
The fuckers are stupid, but not that stupid
Not a bad idea, but you’d be relying on the IDF and Hamas not to fuck it up. The odds of a fuck-up increases exponentially with every idiot you add to a situation.
We can call up almost a third of Israel’s total population into active military service with minimal problems.
No recruiting drives, no drafts, that is just in our already active and reserves.
We probably have more special services members who cut their teeth on war in the desert and urban areas than Hamas had at their full strength in ordinary soldiers.
We have spy satellites that can practically, and in all likelihood actually can, read the text off pages.
We got so good at making super bombs that we got bored and said “Hold my Beer” and then stuck some fucking swords on a missile just to show off.
The US Military is basically the real life version of r/HFY.
It would take a special kind of stupid to start some shit when we are handing out food and trying to appease both sides of the political spectrum, and just give the US a legit reason to fuck around for Real Real in the Middle East again.
Good, would have been better a month or two ago, but good.
It makes sense to play both sides of the field. That way, you always come out on top. Supply the weapons to mangle brown children, then send them the aid they need afterward, GeNiUs.
they will airdrop it at the sea and any Palestinians who want to get it will get shot from IOF ships.
It would be simpler to demand that the Israelis end the blockade, maybe condition the bombs they drop on Palestinians with letting aid trucks in. Have your cake and eat it too. Still more humane than this.
Sorry, but that’s too simplistic. Israel’s support is too engrained in the politics of the US and other countries, and they could easily throw monkey wrenches in all directions. It makes the situation worse, not better. Netanyahu has to removed, but as it is now he has to be worked through, and that’s what’s slowing everything down.
True, the evil empire must go. As long as the US exists it will continue to unconditionally enable Israeli violence against the Palestinians.
If Biden can’t even force aid through Egypt’s border I can’t imagine Trump being any more of a lap dog for israel.
