• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Yup. My coworker’s wife lost a baby after announcing it to me and other management (he was excited), and it was well within the first trimester. I felt really bad for him, and the best I could do is not bring it up and just focus on work.

    It’s hard to place yourself into someone else’s position, so if in doubt, it’s usually best to stay quiet.

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      I cooked at a restaurant with a guy who had something similar happen a couple years before I started there. His nickname was angry johny because he was so irritable. Whenever tears in heaven by Clapton came on he would would yell at the manager to skip the song and dissappear into the walk in. He ended up quitting for other reasons but a year or two later I ran into him at a bar and he and the same lady had a healthy birth and all his anger melted away and he turned into a really rad dood. He even apologized to me about his behavior in said kitchen.

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        Can’t help but think this why we use to have fertility rituals.

        Some genes mixes are less compatible than others

        Marry the one you can easily procreate with.

        I know we’re not supposed to say it but consider where we’re posting here, a series a miscarriages actually is your fault, technically your genes faults but you are your genetic code.

        Think how much hatred this fuck put out there because he chose a nearly incompatible mat.

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            4 months ago

            I am honored.

            I would like to thank all of the unviable embryos.

            We could not have had this moment together without them.

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          Honestly I don’t even know where to begin with this comment. Like, blaming people for their miscarriage is a taboo and for good reason. It doesn’t matter how right you might be, it is still wrong on so many levels.

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            Yep. But it’s fun to stop and realize how fucking hilariously bizarre we are as a species; pretending we’re highly evolved logical beings.

            We each make our existences more miserable out of politeness. A concept that has shifted and lurched over humanity’s existence.

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              Yes, hilarious to think that we don’t blame parents of a miscarriage for their miscarriage? The fuck is wrong with you mate? I really hope you never have to go through that shit, because it’s fucking miserable and crushing…and you want to laugh about how “hilariously bizarre” it is to help people cope and deal with the pain of loss.

              This is like some red-pilled, trolling 14 year old shit, and like any other teenage ignorant rationality, fucking incorrect and misleading.

              Miscarriages can happen for so many reasons, in fact, it’s so common that around 1/5 pregnancies end in a miscarriage. It’s estimated that only around half are due to genetic abnormalities during development, the other half is due to structural issues in the uterus, nutrient and chemical imbalances, and other external factors outside of the uterus that can cause it. Hell, it’s not even been proven if the causes of miscarriages are hereditary or not, and you think your so “enlightened” as to why they happen that your willing to just casually blame the parents, like your some sperged abortion guru.

              Knock if off with dumb, ignorant shit like this. It’s not to late for you to start being a better person.

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                Yes. Exactly that sort of emotional reaction is so fascinating. And I’m certainly not pretending I wouldn’t feel the same way about this or any other thing.

                But try remove yourself from the humanity of it, if you can. Imagine looking at us as a distant observer, a few galaxy over.

                Our lives are so silly and random and meaningless and we take much of it all so seriously.

                How close were any of us to being naturally aborted?

                Life is suffering only if you allow it to be. I choose to enjoy the ride. Sorry, not sorry that my life philosophy offends you. There is a beauty to having no purpose, purpose a limitation.

                To pull from Rick and Morty like any edgelord should, “What is my purpose” – I’d rather it be “none, you fucking don’t matter,” than “you make baby” or “you pass the butter”

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                  Stop doubling down, ffs. On top of being terribly insensitive, you’re wrong. Reason is not on your side. Time to take the L and disappear.

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                    Your claiming that I am wrong and your insistence that I “take the L” together indicate you are approaching this from emotion rather than reason.

                    You have made no attempt to back up your claims and so my only option is to dismiss them.

                    The divide between comforting lies and unpleasant truths is very clearly at play for this issue.

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          Where is your evidence that any of this is true? You are making bold claims about human genetics, though I am willing to accept them if you have sufficient evidence.

          From what I understand miscarriages are common regardless as human reproduction is a very finicky process where many embryos fail to even implant. These don’t even get classed as conventional miscarriages or often even noticed as embryos are so small at this stage.

          What I do find kind of funny is that people aren’t prepared for miscarriages when they are so very common of an occurrence. Especially if you want multiple kids it should be expected that you will miscarry at least once. Previous generations wouldn’t be this hung up on it as early infant death was common, nevermind miscarriage, and they understood that the process was fickle at best.