• danielbln@lemmy.world
    317·
    9 months ago

    Windows is the one where I need an account to install and that spies on me and throws ads in my face, that one?

    • EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de
      41·
      9 months ago

      Like I said, there’s ways to make it private. And there’s ways to block the ads. There’s ways to use it without a Microsoft account too.

      Apple devices have a second network adapter to bypass your VPN and any adblocking software you have to serve you locally relevant ads.

        • EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de
          15·
          9 months ago

          search results are always being tampered with. Which search engine did you use? They may have back-peddled on that due to security concerns…or maybe someone in the executive room has a soul and convinced the others not to do it.

          Or maybe they’re already doing it and there aren’t any apple users that know about it, because unlike windows and linux, you have no control and no way of getting control over your apple devices.

          • brbposting@sh.itjust.works
            3·
            9 months ago

            I checked too. Can you use your engines to source the claim?

            It’s very interesting but I would’ve thought somebody would’ve Wiresharked it or seen the suspicious traffic hitting their router (perhaps).

    • Quastamaza@lemmy.ml
      1·
      9 months ago

      Last time I checked you could sign in without a Microsoft account by deliberately interrupting your internet connection while setting up Windows.

      • viking@infosec.pub
        2·
        9 months ago

        They even have an offline installer mode with local account only. Just need to download the correct image from the Microsoft server.

    • brakenium@lemm.ee
      1110·
      9 months ago

      You don’t need an account. De-bloating scripts take care of most other annoyances. You can fairly easily beat windows into submission

      • Cypher@lemmy.world
        184·
        9 months ago

        You don’t need an account.

        Technically true but worthless to your average consumer. You need to interrupt the installation process, enter a command in a terminal after knowing how to access the terminal and then you can use a local account.

        This is worthless to your average person.

        The same argument applies when Linux neckbeards waddle out of a basement to declare something is simple; just open terminal and do Y.

        • dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          6·
          9 months ago

          The average consumer doesn’t know what NTFS or FAT32 is. I don’t think they’ll understand the privacy implications of Windows reporting.

        • ColonelPanic@lemm.ee
          3·
          9 months ago

          Not tried in a while but it used to just be a case of leaving it disconnected from the net during setup.

          Failing that you can still sign up with a throwaway account and convert it to local in the options after installation iirc. It’s not ideal but it’s still something at least.

        • EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de
          32·
          9 months ago

          your average consumer

          People aren’t “consumers” A consumer is a gaping maw that eats everything until there’s nothing left.

          People are people. They’re home users, they’re customers, they’re clients, they’re citizens, they’re legal residents. But they are not now or will they ever be “consumers”