If you’re moving around between servers it means that each server has to validate the users. The matrix solution was to add identity servers that tell the server you’re logging into who you are. I imagine something similar would be necessary to hop servers on nostr and bluesky. Its possible the connected servers share user identities but that has its own array of problems.
No. A better analogy would be like phone number portability. You can “own” your number, and if you want to change your company you can take the number with you.
Completely impractical for most people but this advice gets unironically thrown around all the time. And evangelists still wonder why regular people think the fediverse and particularly Mastodon are convoluted af.
I think people are confusing centralized with federated. Federation has benefits but Mastodon is not decentralized. There is duplication of data but it’s not the same.
Bluesky’s model of federation fixes the whole “if my instance goes down I lose everything”.
Your Identity and your data is portable, which means that each server on Bluesky is “merely” a service provider.
Are you saying its like the identity server model like matrix uses? Isnt that kind of model horribly complicated?
I don’t know how the matrix model works to be honest, but I think it’s a totally different use case.
If you’re moving around between servers it means that each server has to validate the users. The matrix solution was to add identity servers that tell the server you’re logging into who you are. I imagine something similar would be necessary to hop servers on nostr and bluesky. Its possible the connected servers share user identities but that has its own array of problems.
Can you not just backup the instance on Mastodon?
I mean as a non-admin. Users on Mastodon are at the mercy of the instance owner. On Bluesky (and nostr) they are not.
Then users need to spin up their own instance, right? Then all their posts stay backed up if they choose?
Seems like a mediocre problem to get bent out of shape enough to move to a centralized platform.
No. A better analogy would be like phone number portability. You can “own” your number, and if you want to change your company you can take the number with you.
Completely impractical for most people but this advice gets unironically thrown around all the time. And evangelists still wonder why regular people think the fediverse and particularly Mastodon are convoluted af.
What are you calling centralized here?
I think people are confusing centralized with federated. Federation has benefits but Mastodon is not decentralized. There is duplication of data but it’s not the same.