Please watch the entire video before commenting.

The take away, in my opinion, was much less about the Chinese migrants than it was the story of the specific location they were coming through and how and why the process of legal immigration is broken. It seems so, so easy to fix this problem but it’s clear “the border” is being used as a political pawn to divide us for political gain.

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      It’s not so much of an education issue but rather, an actual mental corruption. I could see how being educated could make the problem worse, in some cases.

      Once a few logical fallacies are able to implant a specific narrative, it’s almost game over IMHO.

      I ain’t no head shrinker or anything though. I’ve just seen a few people dissolve into that insanity a few times.

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      Non-citizen cannot legally vote in federal elections, but the source you provided gives examples of states allowing voting by non-citizens.

      "As of June 2023, the District of Columbia and municipalities in three states allowed noncitizens to vote in some or all local elections: California, Maryland, and Vermont. "

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        Er…

        So, you’re talking about local elections. Meaning nothing beyond like, mayoral voting.

        And you think democrats are chomping at the bit for these three states and one territory to have their mayors be democrats?

        They’re like “Yes, yes, more illegal immigrants in Texas, Florida, New York and Wisconsin! They will help us get elected!”

        C’mon.

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        Were those goalposts heavy? You sure moved them a long way.

        And no, thats not more important. If the House wasn’t limited to a certain number of seats then I could buy your argument.

        The House should not be limited, that is a direct limit on representational government. (Tangent)

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            No, its not.

            The current distrobution of the House delegates an extreme over representation to lower population areas.

            Illegal imigrants in already heavily populated places, which is where most migrants are headed for, are already underrepresented.

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                  Great, it works by artificially increasing census counts in their districts. Illegal immigrants accomplish the same thing.

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                    You should teach yoga with as extreme of stretches as you can make.

                    Please, provide a source example of illegal migrant numbers being so high as to change congressional district gerrymandering lines.

                    Be specific.

                    I wont hold my breath.

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                    You seem to have a tendency to hold two opposing views simultaneously. Whatever. I would like to take your opinions into consideration and maybe even learn something myself. Maybe we all can learn something.

                    For this to happen, we need to assume that all narratives are fundamentally biased, so if you heard something on TV, disregard it. If you read something on a partisan website, red or blue, disregard it.

                    By comment consensus, you are presenting flawed arguments. That is OK! Shake it off. Let’s move forward. Keep in mind that you own the burden of truth with your comments, not us.

                    Here is what we can do: In your state, find a non-partisan reference (usually a government website, hopefully) that has some kind of guidelines for redistricting and how the census works to guide that.

                    Also, reference the laws in a few other states so you understand how laws differ since more data is usually a good thing.

                    When you present two points that appear to have contradictions, it’s good to justify how both conditions are both applicable.

                    Remember: If you decide to work with us here, you cannot use news articles or random charts pulled from Google images. (Charts must include appropriate references to sources.) Raw data with listed sources is a major plus. Recent data is always a plus.