• GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    The economy is only booming for the rich, anyone trying to tell us otherwise doesn’t care about our well-being. If it were doing well they wouldn’t have to keep telling us, we could see it in our everyday lives.

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      5 months ago

      Gas prices are down. General cost of living is stabilized. Unemployment is extremely low and the percentage of eligible workers on the sidelines is dropping. Wages are up for the lowest income levels and continue to climb despite slowing inflation. Black households, in particular, have seen a significant narrowing of the income gap, more so than they’ve seen in many many years. The percentage of women in the workforce is up and salaries are climbing for them as well. In fact, the post-COVID recovery has been wildly successful when you compare it to post-2008 with respect to the improvements for the poorest among us, which is precisely the opposite of what you’re claiming.

      Yours is purely an appeal to anecdote. The data is clear. Unfortunately, as study after study has shown, data can’t compete with vibes, and we just spent the last two years with the MSM (not to mention social media…) telling everyone a recession was around the corner.

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        5 months ago

        If his is purely anctedote, then yours is decontextualized.

        Gas prices are down.

        Sure. Since a high in June of 2022. The last time gas prices were at this level was June 2021. And the time before that was October 2014. Which is to say, for about 6 years, gas prices were lower than today. And just looking at the graph, they were significantly below today’s level. Just to note, they have yet to return to the levels before the precipitous rise stating in December 2020.

        There maybe, as you noted, vibes, but they ain’t wrong.

        Unemployment should be looked at with, of course participation rate which has held even for the last year, and how long people have been unemployed which has been growing slightly for those unemployed for 27 weeks or more. This also doesn’t address underemployment which disporporstely effects the young and poor. Underemployment colors one’s outlook for stability in the present and future.

        Thankfully, Biden and others in the administration have managed this far better than 2008 for the average citizen. Not having a recession is a good thing. I’ve lived through several. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t looming concerns. Inflation is still higher than the target and instigating further disinflation is uncharted territory.

        Data, in of itself, is not enough. It needs to be contextualized to develop political and social narratives. Addressing people with condescension and dismissing their anxieties as mere vibes fails politically.

      • GodlessCommie@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        I stopped reading at gas prices are down. They are up .40 the last week.

        The data is clear

        The gaslighting is all thats clear. All the data conflicts with your claim. Homelessness up to the highest level ever recorded, housing is unaffordable, food is unaffordable, wages are stagnant, income inequality is the widest ever recorded.

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          I stopped reading at gas prices are down. They are up .40 the last week.

          This is just as stupid as saying because it snowed, global warning isn’t real.

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            5 months ago

            No if you’re going to get the first fact blatantly wrong odds are the rest is going to be bunch of bullshit too

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        Housing costs are sky-high. Rent is ridiculous. Good luck ever trying to own a house. And yeah, cost of living went way way up and now it’s “stabilized” there.

        And to say wages are up is just laughable. I mean, yeah people are now being paid $15 an hour instead of $10, but what does that matter when food and housing costs increased more than that?

        The data is skewed by the people that benefited from raising the price of everything during COVID-19 and then never brought the prices down.

        The rich are richer and they are the measuring stick for the economy because they own all the news sources. It is dramatically worse for the poor now than it was 5 years ago.

        Don’t let bullshit propaganda fool you.

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          I feel like this CONSTANTLY happens and people just eat it. Prices skyrocket. Then they stop rising or maybe even dip a little but still remain way higher than they originally were and… Problem solved! It’s stabilized! In fact prices are DROPPING! huzzah!

          Makes me wonder if people are really this easily fooled or are they all just being ignored? Lol

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            I feel like this CONSTANTLY happens and people just eat it. Prices skyrocket. Then they stop rising or maybe even dip a little but still remain way higher than they originally were and… Problem solved!

            Literally yes. Prices go up, wages go up, that’s a healthy economy. Take an economics class.

            If prices ever start broadly going down, prepare for a massive economic ass fucking the likes of which you’ve never seen and clearly can’t imagine.

            • LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              Line go up is just a cult, nothing else.

              Ideally the economy is just something you need to plan, to stay stable and anticipate environmental and population concerns. It shouldn’t need to go up or down to maintain production.

              This “homelessness goes up but so does GDP so it’s okay” shit is unworkable, cruel and unsustainable and only benefits bezos et al

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                Christ alive you have no idea what you’re talking about. Have you ever studied economics? At all? Or are you just posting your fee fees?

                Would you go into a hospital and start lecturing doctors on how their practice is bullshit? Sure, there are probably a lot of things that could be improved, but you don’t have the knowledge to speak about them. Take some courses, then come back and speak from an informed perspective.

                “Planned economy” is a 12 year old’s idea of how things should be.

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                  5 months ago

                  You’re on serious damage control and spouting derivative drivel. “Take an economics class” meanwhile people who did found that set of nomics to be non sensical, because “economics” at its core isn’t about what most people think it is. Cost and worth are two separate things, and the whims of our livelihoods is decided emotionally. Not logically.

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                    5 months ago

                    I don’t watch youtube videos linked by people arguing in favor of something dumb. It’s a good way to waste my time and ruin my algorithm.