Maryland House Democrats introduced a controversial gun safety bill requiring gun owners to forfeit their ability to wear or carry without firearm liability insurance.

Introduced by Del. Terri Hill, D-Howard County, the legislation would prohibit the “wear or carry” of a gun anywhere in the state unless the individual has obtained a liability insurance policy of at least $300,000.

"A person may not wear or carry a firearm unless the person has obtained and it covered by liability insurance issued by an insurer authorized to do business in the State under the Insurance Article to cover claims for property damage, bodily injury, or death arising from an accident resulting from the person’s use or storage of a firearm or up to $300,000 for damages arising from the same incident, in addition to interest and costs,” the proposed Maryland legislation reads.

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    Translation: “I don’t know a damn thing about how to buy a gun in the US and I’m probably british.

    Oh no! Does the poor little soldier of the resistance need to fill out a form? Do they have to wait a few days? Maybe the poor little snowflakes have to arrange a private sale to dodge a background check?

    But sure, we can play this game. Name a state whose gun laws you fully support and we’ll go through them together.

    If you’re having difficulty parsing the statement it means that you don’t have the right to deprive another of their rights

    I’m sure that would have been a sick burn if it didn’t rely on misunderstanding non-literal language.

    Well find me a gun company that …isn’t a gun company?

    Are your donations to the Republican party still tax deductable after they’ve been filtered through a proxy?

    Oh shit they made school shootings legal if you have a permit?

    Nope, just the best in class tools you need to do one, no matter how many red flags you wave around, all thanks to the pro-gun community.

    But don’t worry, they make up for it by intervening in almost 3% of mass shooters. That’s almost as many as unarmed civilians!

    Of course over 80% of those mass shooters are legal gun owners, with most of the remaining 20% being children of “responsible gun owners”.

    Well, not if they are a prohibited purchaser.

    Unless their state doesn’t have universal background checks – a system the pro-gun community opposes. Then they’ve just got to organise a private sale and complete the transaction without saying “By the way I’m a rapist”.

    But it’s not like it’s a barrier anyway. Making guns trivial to purchase also makes it trivial to straw purchase guns too.

    Yet we’re still haven’t covered all the ways the pro-gun community arms murderers and rapists because guess where stolen weapons come from?

    That’s right, legal gun owners again! The ones with zero obligation to properly secure their firearms, who leave them sitting in gloveboxes and drawers in case they need to murder a minority real quick.

    And I’d rather their victims be able to have them too than just get raped and murdered at knifepoint instead.

    Oh how kind of you to decide what weapons people should be threatened with while they’re raped.

    But aren’t you forgetting something? Those victims can just carry knives too and everything is fair and just again right? Or does your shit tier logic suddenly not apply when we’re not talking about your toys?

    “You can run from knife,” ahh shaddup you better be fast then with that ableist take, and don’t try to pretend you weren’t about to type that shit either y’all are too predictable.

    You tried so hard to dress it up as “Actually I’m a hero to people with disabilities too” but you just made it obvious that deep down, you know knive crimes have a lower lethality and a higher chance of being interrupted.

    But it’s not you being raped and murdered, so who cares right? You’ve already made it clear you think you’re doing them a favor by selling their attackers guns.

    Due to this, and the wide gap between the high/low end, the veracity of this study has been debated.

    You could have just not said anything rather than admitting that gun owners can’t be trusted to accurately self-report DGUs.

    Well, that takes care of the DGU, what about the deaths?

    Oh honey, you’re not even comparing the right things. Did you really think it was going to be “DGUs is bigger than gun murders therefore I’m right”?

    You’re comparing alternative realities – and you’re not even comparing them well. For a start, where’s your number for how many offensive gun uses there are?

    For every limp dick waving a gun around claiming self defense, there could be 100 abusive partners telling their sweethearts “if you try to leave I’ll kill you”.

    But don’t worry, we can compare this reality by seeing how America – where hundreds of thousands of brave patriots use their cool guns to fend off rapists and murderers – to the rest of the world.

    And oh look, the crime rate is functionally identical, only you’re more likely to be killed during a property crime thanks to all the criminals the pro-gun crowd armed.

    Oh but those people are probably british right? They don’t count. We need to stick to AMERICAN numbers because nobody knows gunning down innocent people like AMERICA does (for some mysterious reason).

    But when gun sales go up, crime rates go down right? If guns prevent more crime than they enable, that should be clearly reflected. “Guns sold” number goes up, “number of crimes” goes down.

    Nope. No measurable difference at all with some mass shootings sprinkled on top. Just another pro-gun lie in a string of thousands.

    I’ll twist your twister with the 100,000 people it DID work out great for every year, that’s 51,170 more twists! Get twisted on, go twist yourself.

    You know people that aren’t fucked-in-the-head gun cultists don’t consider “I had to threaten or kill another person with a gun” to be “working out great” right?

    You genuinely probably don’t. I’ve seen the “get out of murder free” fantasies all over pro-gun forums. What’s yours? I’m guessing “saving a woman that’s out of your league from a Trump voter”.

    Your Mama comes at the expense of others, and it isn’t even that expensive.

    Go mom! 85, still getting hers and making bank from it too!

    Did you find her when you were looking for people willing to fuck you for money? Did you start at the great grandmothers or did everyone else turn you down?

    Just don’t do a mass shooting okay? Sexually frustrated gun owners murdering women has become such a cliche.

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      Yes, atf form 4473 which coincides with an FBI background check to verify the info. See, you said:

      The laws the pro-gun community holds up as ideal couldn’t prevent the sale of a gun to a teenager with the nickname “school shooter” and a history of animal abuse, death and rape threats, days before he did a school shooting.

      Well, turns out, that if you’re under 18 or have a history of felony animal abuse, you can’t pass that! “Threats of death and rape” seems to be more of a “I don’t feel like dealing with this” scenario from the cops, fix that, not being able to protect yourself.

      I’m sure that would have been a sick burn if it didn’t rely on misunderstanding non-literal language.

      Oh I understood I’m just making fun of you for your not at all thought out takes.

      Are your donations to the Republican party still tax deductable after they’ve been filtered through a proxy?

      “The democrats don’t support gun rights at all so to buy them you typically buy them from right wingers” then start some left wing gun companies and advertise, I’d love to buy a gun from an employee owned business, problem is one would have to “exist.” You should start one.

      Nope, just the best in class tools you need to do one, no matter how many red flags you wave around,

      Ah so by your logic since I can rent a uhaul and fill it up with fertilizer car bombs are legal, huh? Not even a NICs check!

      Unless their state doesn’t have universal background checks

      Wrong again cheesedick, private sale to a prohibited purchaser is also illegal.

      Yet we’re still haven’t covered all the ways the pro-gun community arms murderers and rapists because guess where stolen weapons come from?

      That’s right, legal gun owners again! The ones with zero obligation to properly secure their firearms, who leave them sitting in gloveboxes and drawers in case they need to murder a minority real quick.

      Oh word we’re back to victim blaming?

      Oh how kind of you to decide what weapons people should be threatened with while they’re raped people should be able to defend themselves from rapists with.

      I agree.

      But aren’t you forgetting something? Those victims can just carry knives too and everything is fair and just again right?

      Sure, assuming they’re stronger, faster, and/or better trained in knife fighting than the assailant, and the assailant doesn’t have a gun (legal OR illegal).

      Well, frankly either way, they can try to knife fight the guy now stronger or not, it just may not play out well for them. Actually this (people carrying knives for defense) happens a lot, I’d wager much more than the ~25% of civilians that are CCW holders.

      See, here’s one.

      Or does your shit tier logic suddenly not apply when we’re not talking about your toys?

      Toys like butterfly knives and all that silly shit? Get you a real tool, a glock. But anyway yes sorry to say that while the option is available, the physical properties of a distance tool like a firearm and a short range melee weapon are indeed different, and it will affect the outcome. You seem to have a hard time grasping “physical reality,” are you ok?

      You tried so hard to dress it up as “Actually I’m a hero to people with disabilities too” but you just made it obvious that deep down, you know knive crimes have a lower lethality and a higher chance of being interrupted.

      Not by anyone with a physical disability, better hope their able bodied handler is around to James Bond the knife away from the attacker.

      But it’s not you being raped and murdered, so who cares right

      Hey that’s my line, you’re the one trying to disarm women.

      You could have just not said anything rather than admitting that gun owners can’t be trusted to accurately self-report DGUs.

      Cute! You don’t know that methodology is always questioned, and you think having people doubt it automatically means it isn’t true! Guess with all the flat earthers the world isn’t actually round, and since people doubted the covid vaccines you must also be an antivaxxer.

      and you’re not even comparing them well. For a start, where’s your number for how many offensive gun uses there are?

      Couldn’t find it but you must have it, yes?

      And oh look, the crime rate is functionally identical,

      Hol’ up, you’re the one who said other countries have no crime, thanks for refuting yourself.

      But when gun sales go up, crime rates go down right? If guns prevent more crime than they enable, that should be clearly reflected. “Guns sold” number goes up, “number of crimes” goes down.

      Nope. No measurable difference at all

      Hmm interesting, almost like the proliferation of arms has less to do with crime than you purport.

      You know people that aren’t fucked-in-the-head gun cultists don’t consider “I had to threaten or kill another person with a gun” to be “working out great” right?

      Well seeing as how firearms can only legally be used to prevent death or grievous bodily injury, the other option is “death or grievous bodily injury.” Out of the two I pick “shoot the other guy,” myself, but you’re free to accept death as you wish.

      What’s yours?

      Hopefully never having to use it, but if I do, my “fantasy” is making it home at the end of the day in tact and alive, if a little shook up from my experience. Seeing as firearms are only to be used to prevent death or grievous bodily injury, the other option is “that.”

      Go mom! 85, still getting hers and making bank from it too!

      Eehhh idk about bank

      Did you find her when you were looking for people willing to fuck you for money?

      Nah she offered, seemed like she really wanted that nickel and I felt bad for her. Was just gonna give it to her but she insisted, you know grandmas. Sent me out with a plate of food too, nice lady.

      Just don’t do a mass shooting okay?

      Duh, what’re you some kinda idiot? Although, you did mention 3 or 4 times that it’s legal now but I don’t have the permit.

      Sexually frustrated

      Not me

      gun owners

      Me

      murdering women has become such a cliche.

      I don’t want to hear about what you and your knives do for fun.

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          I’m literally just trolling this idiot this isn’t being graded. Speaking of formatting however sentences begin with a capital letter and end with punctuation. Yours should say:

          This is also terribly formatted, holy shit the brain rot is contagious.

          OH when you said “this” you meant your comment, I see.

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            Nah, I meant your comment for sure. I’d also, you know. trolling isn’t a great uhhhh use of the space on the website, I would say. Violation of rule 4 and all that. Also, not a particularly good excuse for having badly formatted content. Whenever I troll, I make sure I’m doing it with long paragraphs on paragraphs of text, to really be thorough. If you were critiquing my formatting, you’d probably be better off critiquing the disjointed and staccato nature of the comment itself. It has three relatively discontinuous parts, I’d say the two latter parts are somewhat superfluous, is the comment itself really worth it, apparently not, etc. I’m effectively saying that your critiques are kind of surface level.

            I’d also submit that you and the other guy have had the same exact critique of my comments, which is funny. I’d also say that both of your critiques are kind of moot, since my comments are only like, a line or two at most, and both of you seemed to understand them perfectly well and without flaw. Capitalization is only really necessary when you’re seeking to distinguish one sentence from another in a larger paragraph of body of text. If anyone should be throwing that by the wayside, it should be the both of you, since you’re both so keen on line-breaking after every sentence.

            If your trolling was being graded, which it is, it would be getting a D, for more reasons than just the formatting. I’m gonna also scribble down one of those notes in big red capital letters that says “APPLY YOURSELF” at the top of the page.

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              how bout u talk bout something ne1 carez about

              Edit to add: Btw, idk what you mean by “the other guy’s comments,” but if you mean the guy I was talking to, politicalasshole or whatever his name was:

              You do realize I was directly copying his formatting, right?

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      you know, I gotta say, this is the worst formatted comment that I’ve come across on this whole website, I think, and I say that as someone with a great history of writing meandering and poorly formatted comments. going line by line through someone else’s argument is extremely tedious and so is spacing out almost every single line of your argument. the thickest it ever gets is two lines at a time. christ.

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            Sorry I offended your delicate eyeballs. Next time I’ll make sure to prioritize how my comment looks across a range of devices and frontends, rather than the clarity of the argument itself.

            Should I also stop using capital letters? It seems to be what all the formatting police are doing but I’m worried it will make me look like a sock puppet account that I’m using to agree with myself.

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              personally, I prefer single-topic replies, even if that necessitates many individual replies to one comment. think about how much of your comment I just skipped for to the responses and length.