• uint8_t@feddit.de
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    1 year ago

    the price of atomic energy is like 10% coupled to the price of uranium. the equipment, the salaries, the security measures, all those things are so much more expensive compared to the fuel.

    people rarely grasp what 4 magnitudes of energy density increase mean.

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      1 year ago

      yeah but how much more is Uranium if it’s mined in Canada compared to the one from Niger or Russia?

      sure it’s not the main cost-driver but it’s not irrelevant either.

      Also: an installed solar-panel is very cheap in maintenance - and most of the running costs of are heavily influenced by inflation, too It just doesn’t make sense to push for building more atomic reactors - keeping the ones already there running IS making sense but building new ones that may start producing energy in 10 years AND are massively expensive is just not a reasonable investment

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        1 year ago

        yeah but how much more is Uranium if it’s mined in Canada compared to the one from Niger or Russia?

        Consider the cost from fuel is not mainly for uranium ore, but for fuel manufacturing and processing. Like taking the ore and transformer them in pellets fuel.

        May uranium ore double in price the increase of cost for nuclear would be less than 0,005€/kWh

        start producing energy in 10 years AND are massively expensive is just not a reasonable investment

        How can Japan build a reactor in 36 month but we can’t? How can other countries finance favouribly nuclear power (nuclear is the energy source that most of all the others suffer discount rated) but we can’t?

        Nuclear gave France one of the cheapest electricity price in Europe, but we don’t want to retry because we don’t feel we can achieve it?

        Side note, solar panels have problems too as their carbon footprint could be 3 times higher than expected

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          1 year ago

          French electricity prices are not real prices. Look at the debt levels of EdF

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            1 year ago

            You mean the company the french state squished for profit for 2 decades and that during the pandemic has been forced to subsidized electricity prices for everyone?

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              1 year ago

              Yes, that was my point. The electricity prices they charge are not representative of their costs

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                1 year ago

                Ok but in the opposite direction you suggested

                You alluded to the fact it has been subsidized, but it’s the opposite, probably the program would be much better if EDF hadn’t been treated like a cash cow

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        1 year ago

        solar alone is never going to cover your needs. the moment you add the cost of battery storage, nuclear is definitely cheaper. yes, even new construction. for now. when the cost of batteries go down to 1/10th of what it’s today, this might change of course.