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    10 months ago

    Turns out Russia is the real free speech haven. Snowden isn’t the only American who went to Russia to escape political persecution…

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      10 months ago

      Idk… I would ask Navalni what he thinks.

      EDIT: People I didn’t say he is a saint or a good guy, just putting an example of a guy I know famous enough that criticized Putin or just for being it’s opposition and getting punished for it. Not saying he didn’t do other stuff…

      Sur ether are other examples, for example recently people criticing the war but they are not famous examples…

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        Navalni is literally a comically evil Putin, all his positions are identical to Putin just even more nationalistic. You know nothing about him. He is essentially a Neo Nazi.

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          Im not a Russian domestic politics expert by a long shot but from what i see, a lot of these people liberals joke about “getting pushed out the window” seem worse than Putin

          (Although i would like to hear what Russian communists say about that)

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            As a resident Belarusian comrade (close enough I guess), that is basically almost always the case. They always chose some absolute ghoul, and because westerners don’t know the language or care enough to check the policies, no one double checks what those ghouls are saying.

            In the example of Navalni, he is an ethnonationalist and “national purist”. He is literal scum. If Putin is reactionary, Navalni is a fascist.

            Why was he popular? He watched Rick and Morty on Reddit. I shit you not.

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              because westerners don’t know the language or care enough to check the policies

              Maybe your common internet commentator does not check. But the western intelligence agencies check. They want someone like him in power in Russia over Putin. For 1) they’d own him, clearly they’ve done a lot for him and he would likely work with them, for 2) because he is a Nazi and ethnonationalist he would do for them what they’ve long sought to do which is break up Russia into smaller manageable ethnic chunks they can color revolution and control, his policies would drive and allow their intelligence agencies to further instigate into independence movements or at least long-burning terrorism that bogs down the state these tensions he’d create with the many ethnic groups in Russia. He’s perfect for their aims. His views perfect.

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                I agree, but for clarification in my original comment I was referring to common everyday people. Not governments or intelligence agencies.

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          Sure but criticing Putin for sure was part of it. I am not saying he is a saint.