Former President Obama’s senior adviser David Axelrod said it is unhelpful to dismiss concerns about President Biden’s poor marks in major polls, defending his recent criticism of the president’s r…
I don’t really think that this ‘It’s either Biden or Trump!’ mentality is helpful. If the DNC wanted to, they could present a different, more appealing candidate. We haven’t even reached the primary yet. We don’t even know for sure that Trump will be able to run yet. If the most appealing thing about Biden is that he isn’t Trump, clearly he shouldn’t be the candidate.
I’d love for it to be a different candidate than Biden. There’s no guarantee whoever else they come up with would be better on this issue though. It’s a sizable group but a minority of D politicians who oppose the current policy of giving Israel weapons.
Still though, another Trump admin would be an unprecedented complete clusterfuck of a disaster, so I don’t really care whether if it’s Biden or Jiminy Cricket, just not that insufferable deranged criminal again.
Even if not Trump, republicans have fallen over themselves to express the most support of the current government of Israel and their policies. At this point non Trump R candidates leading are Haley and DeSantis, who would hardly say “you know, we need to pressure Israel to stop and we’re increasing humanitarian programs in Gaza”.
I understand that, but the point I’m trying to make is that the “Vote for Biden if you don’t want Trump!” argument is bad, and if you really want to convince people to vote for Biden, why not appeal to the good things he’s done and could do, rather than just a fear of the bad things a Republican administration would do? We’re all tired of hearing ‘You have to vote for bad if you don’t want worse!’. It worked in 2020 because everyone was reeling from the Trump administration already, but it’s been 4 years, it’s not as fresh in everyone’s mind, and I really don’t think it’s going to be as effective this year. Even with it being fresh in everyone’s mind, it was still a scarily close race.
I feel like Biden has put together a competent administration and has accomplished some positive things for people. They could do better at messaging about that.
However, my comments are based on this one issue which other people brought up, not me. It’s simply a fact that any Republican admin would be worse about war and human rights, because they always have been.
I think you’re taking my posts out of context. They’re direct replies to someone making the argument, ‘Vote for Biden because otherwise you get Trump!’, and I’m pointing out that the argument is bad, then you’re replying to me telling me the argument is bad. Yes, I understand that - that’s why I posted the reply.
If the most appealing thing about Biden is that he isn’t Trump
But it’s not. The appealing thing about Biden is he’s quite literally got more Progressive action done in his first term than the last two Democratic presidents combined.
The reality about Biden is he’s the most progressive president we’ve had since FDR.
That was really a reference to the fact that every time this comes up, the automatic, repeated response is, “You have to vote for Biden if you don’t want Trump!” - it’s almost the entire argument in favor of voting for him.
I’m not going to deny that he’s done a lot of good things, and tried to do more only to get shut down by the other branches of government, but his Israel policy is really casting a shadow over everything else, for me personally, at least.
The reality about Biden is he’s the most progressive president we’ve had since FDR.
What has Biden done on the level of LBJ’s Medicare? What’s his equivalent of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, or the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
What has Biden done on the level of Obama’s ACA?
Putting a finer point on this: Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act does less for the environment than Nixon’s EPA did. Nixon.
I get that you want support from progressives for pretending to want progressive shit, but no. Biden is not the most progressive anything. It’s insulting to expect progressives to buy that.
I don’t really think that this ‘It’s either Biden or Trump!’ mentality is helpful. If the DNC wanted to, they could present a different, more appealing candidate. We haven’t even reached the primary yet. We don’t even know for sure that Trump will be able to run yet. If the most appealing thing about Biden is that he isn’t Trump, clearly he shouldn’t be the candidate.
I’d love for it to be a different candidate than Biden. There’s no guarantee whoever else they come up with would be better on this issue though. It’s a sizable group but a minority of D politicians who oppose the current policy of giving Israel weapons.
Still though, another Trump admin would be an unprecedented complete clusterfuck of a disaster, so I don’t really care whether if it’s Biden or Jiminy Cricket, just not that insufferable deranged criminal again.
Even if not Trump, republicans have fallen over themselves to express the most support of the current government of Israel and their policies. At this point non Trump R candidates leading are Haley and DeSantis, who would hardly say “you know, we need to pressure Israel to stop and we’re increasing humanitarian programs in Gaza”.
I understand that, but the point I’m trying to make is that the “Vote for Biden if you don’t want Trump!” argument is bad, and if you really want to convince people to vote for Biden, why not appeal to the good things he’s done and could do, rather than just a fear of the bad things a Republican administration would do? We’re all tired of hearing ‘You have to vote for bad if you don’t want worse!’. It worked in 2020 because everyone was reeling from the Trump administration already, but it’s been 4 years, it’s not as fresh in everyone’s mind, and I really don’t think it’s going to be as effective this year. Even with it being fresh in everyone’s mind, it was still a scarily close race.
I feel like Biden has put together a competent administration and has accomplished some positive things for people. They could do better at messaging about that.
However, my comments are based on this one issue which other people brought up, not me. It’s simply a fact that any Republican admin would be worse about war and human rights, because they always have been.
I just gave you a few examples of why that’s a false dilemma.
It’s only bad if you don’t understand Duvinger’s Law or how the DNC’s bylaws work.
Voting is a chess move, not a love letter. The sooner you learn that, the happier you will be.
I think you’re taking my posts out of context. They’re direct replies to someone making the argument, ‘Vote for Biden because otherwise you get Trump!’, and I’m pointing out that the argument is bad, then you’re replying to me telling me the argument is bad. Yes, I understand that - that’s why I posted the reply.
Chess is a representation of a monarchy in which everyone but the king is ultimately expendable.
Completely irrelevant.
Chess is a logic game.
Say the pawns that don’t think they’re expendable.
But it’s not. The appealing thing about Biden is he’s quite literally got more Progressive action done in his first term than the last two Democratic presidents combined.
The reality about Biden is he’s the most progressive president we’ve had since FDR.
That was really a reference to the fact that every time this comes up, the automatic, repeated response is, “You have to vote for Biden if you don’t want Trump!” - it’s almost the entire argument in favor of voting for him.
I’m not going to deny that he’s done a lot of good things, and tried to do more only to get shut down by the other branches of government, but his Israel policy is really casting a shadow over everything else, for me personally, at least.
What has Biden done on the level of LBJ’s Medicare? What’s his equivalent of the Voting Rights Act of 1965, or the 1964 Civil Rights Act?
What has Biden done on the level of Obama’s ACA?
Putting a finer point on this: Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act does less for the environment than Nixon’s EPA did. Nixon.
I get that you want support from progressives for pretending to want progressive shit, but no. Biden is not the most progressive anything. It’s insulting to expect progressives to buy that.