• ComradeSharkfucker@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    Have you not seen protest? I know every leftist is screaming for peace or at the very least a fucking cease fire longer than a week. There is outrage; you just won’t see it reported on in a positive manner by the vast majority of mass media. Follow independent journalist or the Al jazeera if you want information not propagandized by a capitalist system that benefits from Israel’s existence.

    Protests are silenced and unreported on intentionally to make it seem like there is less it a movement and to prevent further protest. The people are angry, across the entire world. Western governments are actively making decisions large portions of their population disagree with and it is entirely undemocrati

    I also recommend directly following gazan journalists, though they are dropping like flies right now unfortunately.

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      Yes most of the protests are unreported unless they block major streets or disturb events. Yet media pertends it never happened and social media block most post from being discovered.

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        And to make matters even worse, most of them have decided that blocking streets or disturbing events is a step too far, some jurisdictions even prosecuting it as TERRORISM and/or making it legal to drive your car into protesters on purpose! 🤬

        They’ve made it so your protest either gets no media coverage or you risk being branded a terrorist and having all your rights taken away, if you’re not murdered first!

  • Stamets@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    Right here.

    Israel is taking out play books from Saudi Arabia and Nazi Germany. Everyone involved in the current government needs to be prosecuted in an international court for war crimes and crimes against humanity.

    Israel is the bad guy here, make no doubt about it. Just because horrible shit happened that doesn’t give you the right to be even more horrible back.

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          Simply because they don’t agree with the fact that Israel is doing the same exact tactics as Nazi-Germany but with different methods.

          I had an image that perfectly showed it but certainly he reported the message to get it removed.

          The image compared Nazi-Germany tactics with Israeli government tactics and they ticked all the same boxes.

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            You shouldn’t be banned, sorry. I was low on sugars or whatever when I wrote that comment.

            Your sentiment is totally wrong, though. Israel state is nothing like the Nazi state was and those comparisons are only made because of what the Nazi state did to jews. Which I find in addition to factually wrong, extremely distasteful. Criticizing Israel is not antisemitism, but what you did here is.

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              The comparison is there, they doing the exact same thing.

              Ethnic cleaning, genocide and apartheid. Zionists literally think they are better than the Palestinian people.

              There are videos of Zionist government saying they want to drop an atomic bomb on Palestinian people in Gaza. The Israeli government compared Palestinian people with “animals” and “rats”.

              All these things Nazi did too. Except the atomic bomb.

              This is not antisemitism, this is reality. You’re just using antisemitism as an excuse to avoid the comparison.

              This is my last message to you though, I refuse to argue/ discuss with pro-Zionist’s. I refuse to get a headache.

              Anyway if anyone wants to see the image, it’s on Google. Just Google “Nazi and Israeli” and check the Google images. It’s there.

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                The comparison is there, they doing the exact same thing.

                By my understanding of the phrase “exact same” obviously not. To start with, jews were never an actual threat to the Nazis. They were abused, deported, murdered entirely because they were being jews. Not because they were causing any harm in Germany. Hamas is an actual threat to Israel. I’m sure there are assholes in Israel who think that Palestinians need to be abused because of what they are instead of what they do, but that sentiment is not defining their actions at least currently. Plus Israel is a free nation (unlike Nazi Germany), where dissent is possible and allowed – Netanjahu is not a dictator and he is quite unpopular.

                Secondly, the magnitude is completely different. Germany murdered 6 million jews, which considering that there were about 500 thousand of them in Germany took some real effort. In other words, they did not only murder the jews inside their borders, they conquered several neighboring countries and murdered the jews in there. They were not trying to eradicate militant jews who commit terror strikes, they were trying to eradicate jews period.

                If Israel would be doing the exact same thing as Nazis did, this would mean that Israel first kills almost 2 million palestinians, then conquers few of its neighboring countries, and kills 90% of the same population groups from those countries. They might get there some day, who knows, but if they keep this current rate it’ll take them perhaps 20 years minimum to do it.

                Israel is clearly not committing genocide in the sense that the word was used during WW2. In the modern, UN-defined meaning of the word, they sure check some boxes, though, but it’s utterly wrong to compare their actions to the actions of nazis in WW2 just because we’re using the word “genocide” as if it was the same word as it was in 1945.

                This is my last message to you though, I refuse to argue/ discuss with pro-Zionist’s. I refuse to get a headache.

                That headache is cognitive dissonance. You’re learning the truth which disagrees completely with how you view the world currently. This has not been an argument, this has been you being wrong and me telling you how it is actually.

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    10 months ago

    Outrage doesn’t stop wars. We live in an autocratic system all while pretending to be in a democracy.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The face of Al Jazeera’s reporting throughout Israel’s relentless bombardment of Gaza was on air in October when he learned that his wife, seven-year-old daughter, 15-year-old son and one-year-old grandson were killed in an attack.

    Hamza and his colleague, Mustafa Thuraya, a videographer for Agence France Press, were the latest of scores of journalists killed by Israel in its assault on Gaza in response to the Hamas cross-border attack in October.

    If so, it’s a war crime and, as Al Jazeera has demanded, the international criminal court should add these killings to its investigation of Israel’s other alleged breaches of the Geneva conventions across occupied Palestine.

    Even reporting from Gaza during the second intifada 20 years ago, when the Israeli military regularly invaded, bombed and flattened Palestinian neighbourhoods, did not feel especially unsafe compared with other regions.

    Miller’s killing looked to be part of a pattern of ill-disciplined Israeli soldiers shooting whoever they felt like – not only journalists but UN officials and aid workers as well as Palestinian children.

    Israeli politicians were quick to call for the “elimination” of a number of Palestinian journalists working for foreign news organisations who were falsely accused by a pro-Israel pressure group in the US of being “embedded with Hamas” on 7 October.


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