Nope. Marxist-Leninists. We agree on some things, disagree on others, sometimes rather vehemently. Rather than stir up unnecessary internet drama, I edited my comment because I know that it’s something we’re unlikely to come to any agreement on. Plus, it’s their meme community - nothing positive for anyone to gain in bickering here.
no like seriously shout out to you, I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen an anarchist come in here on mistake and actually engage in good faith. Have you been to hexbear? it’s an instance you should check out if not, they’re a left unity instance, it is still mostly ML but the mods keep a tight grip on any sectarianism there
We all want to see the world organized in a more equitable way. What that looks like and how we get there may have some differences but the end state does at least rhyme. Engaging in bad faith is something that I try to avoid. The world’s fucked up enough as is, adding to the division just. Thanks for your recommendation of Hexbear as well. I’m somewhat new on the Fediverse and will have to check it out.
Hey, you are a fucking cool dude you know that? I know hexbear will more likely be your kind of space but with the very good comments you’ve made in this thread, I’ll say you are welcome here despite not being a Marxist–Leninist. Even if we will disagree on a lot of things xd
Much appreciated and thank you for being welcoming. I’m happy that this platform (and the Fediverse as a whole) has been home to a lot more positive interactions than have been consistently seen in the web at large in recent years. Hopefully we can continue that, keep humanizing each other, and avoid rhymes of past tragedies (both leftist and non-leftist).
Even if we end up in conflict, we’re still brothers, sisters, and niblings wanting to make the world more fair and equitable for all of humanity. I think that is vital to remember and reinforce, lest we be unwitting tools of the forces of imperialism and anti-social philosophies that are resisting the very ideals that we try to work towards or worse, losing sight of the inequities that drove us down these paths in the first place, dehumanizing others, and perpetuating the very harms that we intend to oppose.
In that case, can you please explain how Marxism-Leninism leads to supporting Russia in the current war? Is Putin following Marx, Lenin, or any other socialist in any way?
The case for supporting Russia in the current conflict is not because it is some harbor of socialist development, Russia in it’s current state is very much the opposite when it comes to it. Very much a capitalist shithole. That’s what critical support means.
However, the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine has sparked new developments globally. This conflict has very much accelerated the trend of multipolarity, meaning that it weakens the hegemony of the United States thus allowing third world countries as well as communists some breathing room. The development of BRICS is very much a positive one for the working classes of Africa, Asia and South America by giving these countries an alternative to existing western institutions that were bleeding them dry. Like the IMF and the World Bank.
Now because of this conflict directly, imperialist forces have been preoccupied with different matters and thus are unable to intervene in case of progressive developments around the world as they normally would be able to. Take a look at Libya, it was an example for many countries to stay in line.
For example the coup in Niger, would never have happened just a few years ago. This is massive progress in a very short time span!
If Russia were to „win” this conflict it would only exacerbate the current developments further, no matter what happens it was essentially proven that NATO is not well equipped for combat with a peer power, dedollarization is already happening and would then only accelerate with Russia being declared the de-facto victor.
Also to add something personally. I don’t like Nazis, and seeing Azov and others get turned into swiss cheese was some very positive news to read B)
Thank you for a serious answer and not just a downvote.
Unfortunately, you are mostly wrong. It has indeed sparked new developments, but those developments are making the world even more reliant on the US. Europe is now importing American gas instead of Russian one, this is giving the US tons of extra money and power, both of which used to go to Russia. Wagner had to be pulled out of Africa and Syria which means there is nobody there to counter US interests. China is now looking at Siberia rather than Africa.
I will concede that if Russia won in 3 days, then all of the international responses probably wouldn’t happen at all. But they didn’t, and in the current state every day they stay there is worse for BRICS.
I’m not an Marxist-Leninist, myself, but an anarchist. I do not see eye-to-eye with many online M-Ls that I’ve encountered on this topic or that of current regimes. I would rather let them answer so that I don’t offer an inaccurate explanation based on misunderstanding or my personal biases.
Nope. Marxist-Leninists. We agree on some things, disagree on others, sometimes rather vehemently. Rather than stir up unnecessary internet drama, I edited my comment because I know that it’s something we’re unlikely to come to any agreement on. Plus, it’s their meme community - nothing positive for anyone to gain in bickering here.
no like seriously shout out to you, I’m not sure if I’ve ever seen an anarchist come in here on mistake and actually engage in good faith. Have you been to hexbear? it’s an instance you should check out if not, they’re a left unity instance, it is still mostly ML but the mods keep a tight grip on any sectarianism there
We all want to see the world organized in a more equitable way. What that looks like and how we get there may have some differences but the end state does at least rhyme. Engaging in bad faith is something that I try to avoid. The world’s fucked up enough as is, adding to the division just. Thanks for your recommendation of Hexbear as well. I’m somewhat new on the Fediverse and will have to check it out.
Hey, you are a fucking cool dude you know that? I know hexbear will more likely be your kind of space but with the very good comments you’ve made in this thread, I’ll say you are welcome here despite not being a Marxist–Leninist. Even if we will disagree on a lot of things xd
Much appreciated and thank you for being welcoming. I’m happy that this platform (and the Fediverse as a whole) has been home to a lot more positive interactions than have been consistently seen in the web at large in recent years. Hopefully we can continue that, keep humanizing each other, and avoid rhymes of past tragedies (both leftist and non-leftist).
Even if we end up in conflict, we’re still brothers, sisters, and niblings wanting to make the world more fair and equitable for all of humanity. I think that is vital to remember and reinforce, lest we be unwitting tools of the forces of imperialism and anti-social philosophies that are resisting the very ideals that we try to work towards or worse, losing sight of the inequities that drove us down these paths in the first place, dehumanizing others, and perpetuating the very harms that we intend to oppose.
In that case, can you please explain how Marxism-Leninism leads to supporting Russia in the current war? Is Putin following Marx, Lenin, or any other socialist in any way?
The case for supporting Russia in the current conflict is not because it is some harbor of socialist development, Russia in it’s current state is very much the opposite when it comes to it. Very much a capitalist shithole. That’s what critical support means.
However, the current conflict between Russia and Ukraine has sparked new developments globally. This conflict has very much accelerated the trend of multipolarity, meaning that it weakens the hegemony of the United States thus allowing third world countries as well as communists some breathing room. The development of BRICS is very much a positive one for the working classes of Africa, Asia and South America by giving these countries an alternative to existing western institutions that were bleeding them dry. Like the IMF and the World Bank.
Now because of this conflict directly, imperialist forces have been preoccupied with different matters and thus are unable to intervene in case of progressive developments around the world as they normally would be able to. Take a look at Libya, it was an example for many countries to stay in line.
For example the coup in Niger, would never have happened just a few years ago. This is massive progress in a very short time span!
If Russia were to „win” this conflict it would only exacerbate the current developments further, no matter what happens it was essentially proven that NATO is not well equipped for combat with a peer power, dedollarization is already happening and would then only accelerate with Russia being declared the de-facto victor.
Also to add something personally. I don’t like Nazis, and seeing Azov and others get turned into swiss cheese was some very positive news to read B)
Thank you for a serious answer and not just a downvote.
Unfortunately, you are mostly wrong. It has indeed sparked new developments, but those developments are making the world even more reliant on the US. Europe is now importing American gas instead of Russian one, this is giving the US tons of extra money and power, both of which used to go to Russia. Wagner had to be pulled out of Africa and Syria which means there is nobody there to counter US interests. China is now looking at Siberia rather than Africa.
I will concede that if Russia won in 3 days, then all of the international responses probably wouldn’t happen at all. But they didn’t, and in the current state every day they stay there is worse for BRICS.
I’m not an Marxist-Leninist, myself, but an anarchist. I do not see eye-to-eye with many online M-Ls that I’ve encountered on this topic or that of current regimes. I would rather let them answer so that I don’t offer an inaccurate explanation based on misunderstanding or my personal biases.