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    There were definitely kids naruto running and doing kamehamehas at recess, but by high school, if it was ever known you watch even some mainstream ass anime, kiss that social life goodbye. Other anime nerds went way too weeb with it, so the only option is to hide your enjoyment and never make any references to anime in order to have some kind of normal experience. These days it’s super normal to watch anime because it was our parents generation that didn’t grow up with it. Now everyone is familiar with it.

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      That’s what tends to happen when something you like is ostracized. Either you double down and get even more into it, or you hide it in shame.

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      I remember in school a few kids had older parents that didn’t want their kids watching anime because they saw it as propaganda from an enemy country

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      The older generations “other” it by calling it by its foreign, non-english anime. Our generation that grew up with it just calls it “cartoons”, and it’s normal.

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        Anime as a whole has elements that differentiate it from animation from other regions, so the distinction seems useful.

        Should we also stop using the terms gyro, kebab, burrito, schawarma, and kati, and just say wrap instead?

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          I got yelled at recently for saying I was watching what I thought was an anime. Can you help me understand the difference? Is it just if it’s originally made in Japan?

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            Honestly, there’s no specific definition everyone agrees to. If someone yells at you for your definition they’re probably an ass.

            The most common one is yes, everything that was originally made in Japan. So “Pingu in the City” is an anime. But some people consider the artstyle first so they count stuff like ATLA too.

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            Anime and cartoons are the same word, just different languages. If you are speaking Japanese, it is always proper to refer to cartoons as “anime”.

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            Yes. Anime is just the word Animation used as a loanword by the Japanese, but Japanese animation itself has become associated with the word outside of Japan.

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            Strictly speaking, yes. So Avatar, Castlevania and Scissor 7 aren’t anime, while the Tale of the Princess Kaguya is, despite what their artstyle might suggest. (Co-productions like The Red Turtle can be considered anime.)

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      “oh no, people are calling me a pedophile for liking lolis” As they should. Lolis are why I hate most anime because I know they’re catering to the weirdos that buy their products. The whole “It’s ok guys! This character is 1000 years old but looks like a child” is always and will always be sus.

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              This might shock you, considering the co pletely unrelated nature of this thread, but anime is kind of popular. Ever heard of Taylor Swift?

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                Heard the name. Apparently she flies around in a private jet a lot. Seems to irritate the Internet. Couldn’t tell you the name of any of her songs though. What does this have to do with you only watching creepy anime and then feigning shock when that’s clearly what you are looking for? How does it relate to my choosing shows and movies that aren’t piles of half dressed children? You protest too much. It seems disingenuous to me.

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        My man out here talking about the parallels between One Piece and Honey Boo Boo 🙄

        Seek help, brother

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    I’ve been into Anime since the 90s, always had friends and wasn’t ostracized for it. Some people asked questions about tentacle hentai and Akira, but since was I never found any intereet in either all I could talk about was stuff I’d seen and I’d just tell em that.

    I guess the closest thing to a real negative reaction was my mom walking in on the opening scene of Ranma 1/2 Movie 2, where Ranma, having been at the beach as a guy, was now running around topless as a woman. She didn’t accept “that’s really a guy who just got splashed with water.”

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    I didn’t like anime for so long because the fans of it in the 00’s had some very eccentric behavior.

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    I still dont get anime. There are like 2 or 3 that I’ve watched, but I can’t really get into it.

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      That’s like saying you don’t get movies, or cartoons. You’re just not watching the genres you’d like.

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        Ok, what would you recommend? If it helps, the stuff I did like was the promised neverland, chainsaw man, and some of full metal alchemist.

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          Im gonna suggest two slightly different anime from everyone else. Black Lagoon and Saga of Tanya the evil.

          Black Lagoon is basically a show about some mercs in south east asia during the 90s, and the weird shit they get up to also it can be rather melancholy at times.

          Saga of Tanya the evil is about some poor bastard who picks a fight with a god and promptly gets reincarnated as a little girl in WW1 Germany, where they proceed to succeed downwards into a frontline role when they just want to be a rear line officer. Also they commit technically not a warcrimes.

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            I see this recommended all the time to people just getting into anime, but I’ve found that if someone doesn’t get anime they really won’t mesh with a hyperviolent and slow paced slice-of-life. I think it’s the same thing as people that insist Akria (or buckaroo banzai) makes sense - once you’re on your 30th rewatch, have the manga and read enough reviews about it, you lose the perspective of someone new discovering it for the first time.

            Said as someone who dismissed anime for years because I figured it was all self indulgent wank like bebop (I love it now, but boy is it not a great intro to the genre)

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            The Tokyo Ghoul anime post-s1 is a rushed mess lol.

            Which is a shame cuz the manga is fucking fantastic

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      I feel it’s same way with people that enjoy series for example, different strokes for different folks, I grew with dbz it was huge where I lived to the point kids would skip classes to watch it, so watching anime grew from that, I don’t enjoy shows like Game of Thrones or things like Family Guy, but there’s others of the same genre that I do watch, again preferences do matter, maybe you won’t enjoy an anime series but maybe you will just a movie something like Redline, Spirited Away…

      What I’m trying to say is don’t feel pressured into liking it, do you.

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        I don’t feel pressured, ive just tried it a few times and could really get what made people like it so much.

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      Because modern anime has a lot of mass produced trash. It’s no ranma 1/2 or utena or Saint seya or macross, Gundam, cowboy bebop, outlaw star, cat’s eye, lupin iii, etc… there are ton of well produced anime before 2000 that are actually good. Some are confusing messes but at least look amazing. I tried watching bleach and the newer stuff is just so boring and cringey.

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        I mean… there’s plenty of good stuff post-2000.

        And plenty of stuff pre-2000 sucked, you just didn’t hear about it because only the big hits got imported.

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      You probably aren’t autistic enough. The way anime is directed, and more often then not the main content tend to be quite autistic. I especially always found romance in anime to make no sense, but after seeing autistic people in my social circle get into relationships it was almost identical to what I was struggling to understand. The cast of cutesy characters in anime of that sort almost always have a few characters that are autistic. Key for example had a semi non verbal girl in one of their works, and the recurring chuunibyou has gotten a “holy shit that character is me as a kid” from a few people with Asperger’s that I know.

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        They hated you because you spoke the truth lul.

        No but seriously, besides your use of those terms you’re not wrong. The characters in a lot of anime don’t act like regular people (I get it they’re in non realistic situations). Especially in romance, it’s one of my pet peeves actually. You helped this girl up from a fall/defended her once/said something nice about her/is your childhood friend once, whan yall were kids and now she’s in love with you and wants to marry you forever. It all stems from the nature and target audience of anime, they’re aimed at kids/teens mostly and have to be relatively simple and they have to repeat key info relatively often which makes them seem autistic sometimes. I’m not saying all anime is like this, just most of them plus I’ve noticed it’s been getting better and better since I graduated high-school a decade ago.

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    Anime kinda polarized itself by the time I stopped watching like 5-7ish years ago. Idk if it’s changed now.

    But back when I stopped watching your options were:

    • Shonen Reboot/Continuation
    • Generic Candy-Colored anime girls at high school show.
    • Rare 10-60 Episode mini-series that had no right existing in that era.
    • Jojo.
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      Now you have “fantasy isekai with a protagonist that’s so overpowered it removes all conflict or stakes from the story.”

      I seriously don’t get the appeal. I know it’s wish-fulfillment, but can’t our wish-fulfillment include overcoming challenges?

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    Its a little wierd for me as nerdy. geeky, fen. Being part of a subcluture had become part of my identity but now they are just normal ole things.

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      Dude so many of the wierd nerdy subcultures are mainstream now! So many of the things that made me uncool when I was in school are now trendy, and trends that appear to be here to stay at that!

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        For me the one that feels the weirdest is electronic music, whenever I hear drum and bass in a commercial or some mainstream video game or something it just feels wrong. For me it was something deeply counter-current that involved a whole lifestyle and philosophy and placed you in fringe of society, and now I just saw doctor who raving it out in the last Christmas special, a family friendly household show. I don’t necessarily hate that it’s happening or anything but it’s just bizarre haha.

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    I have a family member with a kid about to enter middle school who is very likely going to end up being this guy. We’ve been trying to de-weeb him, but it’s not going great. I think when the ninjutsu sinks its kunai in at such a young age, it’s a lost cause. My only hope now is to just make sure he knows how to run properly.

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    Kids are going to be weird and use their imagination. They’ll pretend to be an NFL player breaking tackles as they run through a crowded school hallway. They’ll pretend to be Optimus Prime and pretend to transform into a truck. Or they’ll pretend to be iron man blasting bad guys with their lazer palms.

    The issue is when your friends have aged out of that behavior and you think it’s still cool to Naruto run up to them all the time.

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      you are no match for my complicated hand gestures jutsu