“from scratch”
It’s like a page worth of instructions you can follow verbatim excluding bootloader and network. If you watch one video of someone doing it to fill those gaps there is nothing to it.
Source: I watched Kai Hendry speed install arch, bookmarked the video and all my machines are now arch “from scratch” in 10 minutes or less of actual keyboard time.
I think calling it “a page worth” is understating it somewhat, especially if you want a full install to actually use stuff. In reality, when installing at first, you’ll be finding stuff you missed for a while, like hardware video decoding.
Also, are you referring to just the direct instructions for one choice? Because to me, the point of installing manually is educating yourself on the choices, choosing one that suits you, and understanding what you’re doing to set it up. Of course, when you’re doing subsequent installs, you already know that stuff - but at that point you might just want to write an install script instead of running them manually.
I think it depends what you want out of it.
The arch install from the ISO is a layered process. You can always add more, but a bootable install is not much over a page away. I do like to pick what’s best for me, but that’s not a prerequisite for first install. Do it, take notes, refine, and repeat.
I don’t have an installer or anything, but I have pretty comprehensive notes of what I like (bootctl vs grub, network-manager vs systemd-networkd and friends, and so on). But to have a system that boots and optionally has a desktop environment of your choosing is not exactly a Rubik’s cube of difficulty.
I don’t remember the channel anymore, but there’s one guy constantly updating various setups. Like Arch with encryption, Arch with BTRFS, etc. I started with one of those videos and wrote my own step by step guide. Now I’m just following my own guide whenever I install Arch.
I wouldn’t dare do that. If my own guide becomes outdated I’d have wasted time and effort. But to each their own. 👍
Trve Arch users don’t remember their install process.
Can confirm. Install once and it lives forever until the hardware dies or is replaced.
All I remember is that I still haven’t memorised the add user command
curl cheat.sh/useraddWhat?
This will be useful the next time I’ll have to install arch
This will be useful the next time I’ll have to install arch
I only remember how long it takes
I even ported an install once from one device to another just by copying the data and installing the bootloader.
Shout out to Julia from Drawfee on youtube for the bottom art. It’s Bobby.
No!! Julia!! That’s Bobby Hill??
The room is in shambles.
The room full of vampires?
I came looking for your comment. Julia birthed a meme
Sorry
And everytime we kiss
They’re just like us
We’ve all got 'em
I get this feeling
And everytime we touch
SORRY
No big difference between those two methods of install. You get the real medal when a random upgrade breaks some software and you are able to track down the issue and corresponding solution(s).
is installing debian an acceptable solution(s)? :D
It is if that’s what you are comfortable with.
I’m a big proponent of using tools you already know how to use, so long as you aren’t making things needlessly harder for yourself by doing so
Debian is always acceptable solution
debian ♥️
I don’t know the current state of Debian installation. But not too long ago, installing Arch Linux felt much easier lmao
Yo Arch users. Try daily driving Linux From Scratch. I dare ya. Let’s see what you’re really made of.
Been there. Done that.
Is that Bobby Hill?!
Yes
Endeavour Os was the best thing I ever used. Easy to install, out of box is minimal but sufficient. I traded my Linux Mint to be able to customize my workflow, look and feel.
I used it for a while too before I learned about archinstall. eOS has a great community though. I use their forum to look for answers often
idk why, but everytime I try archinstall it breaks in one way or another. I’m sure it works perfectly well for everyone else, I’m just cursed
note: not seeking advice, I prefer my manually installed FDE + secureboot EFISTUB setup anyways
I’ve found that’s usually true with many tech things. Everyone has a great time and I’m just cursed.
I was going through some stuff and installing Arch from scratch was the only way I could feel anything at all.
Every now and then I see that laptop and think "I should keep going and install those power management scripts ". Then I think “nah”.
Why use Arch when you can do LFS?
I still install manually just out of habit
The new / rewritten arch install is fantastic. The btrfs layout, with encryption, really nice experience and end result.
You are becoming one punch man??
All that and we don’t find out who she was drawing?
EDIT: i might be dumb
Wait, they don’t say it in the video?
I misinterpreted the “IT’S NOT” at the very end to be coming from the artist :P
Oh, I think that’s one of the other artists who was incredulous that his partner managed to draw Bobby so poorly 😅
built as in “made the os”? If so, then yes they probably cried a lot those damn wizards
