Pope Francis has urged Vatican bureaucrats to avoid “rigid ideological positions” that prevent them from understanding today’s reality

Pope Francis urged Vatican bureaucrats Thursday to avoid “rigid ideological positions” that prevent them from understanding today’s reality, an appeal made days after he formally allowed priests to bless same-sex couples in a radical change of Vatican policy.

Francis used his annual Christmas greeting to the Holy See hierarchy to encourage the cardinals, bishops and laypeople who run the Vatican to listen to one another and to others so they can evolve to truly offer service to the Catholic Church.

Speaking in the Hall of Blessings, Francis told them it was important to keep advancing and growing in their understanding of the truth. Fearfully sticking to rules may give the appearance of avoiding problems but only ends up hurting the service that the Vatican Curia is called to give the church, he said.

“Let us remain vigilant against rigid ideological positions that often, under the guise of good intentions, separate us from reality and prevent us from moving forward,"the pope said. "We are called instead to set out and journey, like the Magi, following the light that always desires to lead us on, at times along unexplored paths and new roads.”

  • prole@sh.itjust.works
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    10 months ago

    Are we gonna end up with an anti-pope?

    I really don’t know, I just know the term and it sounds cool.

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    Can he avoid fucking with the US Supreme Court and stopping his legions of priests from fucking small children?

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      10 months ago

      How exactly is the Vatican fucking with the Supreme Court? (I’m not defending anything, I’m just genuinely curious)

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        The youngest and least qualified member of the supreme Court who was forced through in the waning days of Trump’s administration, Amy Coney Barrett, was raised as and is still a member of the People of Praise, a para-church organization which consists mostly of Catholic members. People of Praise is a highly conservative organization that touts strong gender roles and is overall highly secretive.

        At one point it is believed that Coney Barrett was the highest rank a woman could have in the organization, with the title of “Handmaid”.

        During Amy Coney Barret’s confirmation hearings, the people of Praise purged all records of their magazine and member profiles from their website.

        The People of Praise organization has been accused of covering up for child abusers on multiple occasions.

        Source: Washington Post and the People of Praise Wikipedia article

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        We have the most members on it right now who are Catholic in its history. Which caused an abortion ban and systemic stripping away of the rights of atheists.

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    What is even the point of religion now? They profess to be a moral compass, but when they catch-up with the times, half of their followers cry “traitor!”.

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      Well, the main “point” of religion was never to be anyone’s “moral compass”.

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          Still wrong. As you are probably aware, religion (broadly defined) as a phenomenon is present in all known cultures throughout the history of humanity, in a myriad of different shapes and forms. The common thread to all of them is not morality.

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            I know they aren’t, I’m saying their claim is that they are.

            It’s even common to claim everything God does is just and right. If gay people get killed in a nightclub, it’s because they’ve sinned, and that’s Gods will, therefore, the gunman was doing the right thing.

            Then you get the people with cognitive dissonance who claim that slavery was moral because God stipulated rules about how the slaves should be treated and “it was a different time”.

            Then you get the people who turn themselves into bombs and believe mass murder is right, and the people that died should thank them, because the psycho took their victims to heaven with them.

            Then you get the people who vote against abortion rights because they believe the most ethical thing to do is save babies, even if it risks the mothers life, or guarantees poor life quality (either from poverty or developmental issues).

            It’s ALL a moral claim. When your moral foundation is God, nothing you can do in service of what that God supposedly says can be wrong.

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              All those things are abhorrent, still not the main point, core or raison d’être of religion in any way. One could perhaps say it’s a recurring theme in certain traditions, particularly of the abrahamic variety. Your perspective is very limited and very west-centric; ironically a very christian worldview.

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                10 months ago

                Well that was condescending and not very constructive.

                Can you tell me which modern religion doesn’t profess to provide a moral compass?

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    “Let us remain vigilant against rigid ideological positions that often, under the guise of good intentions, separate us from reality and prevent us from moving forward"

    Never expected pope to diss christianity.

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      10 months ago

      (Former christian) this whole Pope business has been sooo interesting. And I mean it in a non-ironic way.

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      Isn’t having gay sex still considered a sin in Catholicism? I thought those blessings didn’t count as a marriage and having sex while not being married was a thing that constituted as a sin as well?

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        Everything is a sin in Catholicism, because the point of the religion is that nothing you can do can escape sin.

        A major difference between Catholics and Protestants is that in Catholicism you’re expected to attempt to live a life as Christ wanted you to, and not just get a “free space” from Jesus for saying you believe in him.

        Thus, gay people are unlikely to get Catholic marriages or become priests, but Catholics also don’t think gays are inherently more evil than any other sin, as a general rule.

        The Catholic Church is not immune to change, and if readings of Scripture change so that gays are seen more favorably, or that women should be allowed in the clergy (neither of which is improbable, on a long timeline), then Catholic standards will change.

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    Recently heard a catholic who once tried to tell me that everything the pope does is ordained by God, and therefore “good”, go on a tangent about how the pope is now corrupted by Satan and “needs to be taken care of” with the clear intention that someone should murder the pope over his “not as negative as it used to be” view of lgbtq.

    Weird how their priorities used to be “God church family country” back then and all it took was a little taste of fascism to turn them To “my chosen human replacement for Jesus, the group of people who look and vote the way I do, THEN maybe church, family mixed in there too if they look and vote the same way I do”

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    This isn’t an actual step forward, just a ploy to keep religion going for as long as possible.

    It’s obviously all a lie, they just keep softening their policies to stay relevant in modern times. Imagine if they stuck to their old believes from a few hundred years ago or actually followed the bible, they’d become irrelevant in just one generation.

    So instead they adapt to keep their power.

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    Why did they adopt “magi” for the Wiseman? When historically it has been used to describe a magician, alchemist, witch, etc.

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    lol. His entire life is dogma; his position, home, city, and organization are a rigid and non critical exercise.

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    I actually dont like this. Im not super religious but hold your fucking ground. If you say something is not allowed then dont get pushed over because thats how society has transformed. He should be saying heathenism is rampant not “lets figure this out together babes, im sure god can come to an understanding”.