Instances are not shadow banning, they all listed in instance list page.
I didn’t get the mod drama thing. I guess this guy mixing instance admins with community mods.
Also, I don’t think there is that much blocking between instances except Beehaw, since they want to create a refined user base.
I don’t really expect 4channers to have reasonable opinions on moderation, the whole reason it’s the way it is is because of lax moderation
4chan has lax moderation? I guess you’ve never seen their rules then and the bans their mods give
Whole reason 8chan is a thing is because they think 4chan has too much moderation
Nice ad hominem
I don’t think you know what an ad hominem is.
Oh no
I can barely ad single digit numbers, much less hominem.
Pretty sure the only time I’ve heard someone say hominem is Eminem in the fast section of Rap God
The largest instances all block many other instances and they are all in favor of federating with Meta as well.
To be fair, a lot of the blocking are of instances that are causing lots of moderation problems, since they post things that upset many users.
Most users actually prefer a walled garden experience so they don’t have to see things that upsets them. As long as they feel the walled garden has sensible rules.
Ya hopefully that was an insanely swreping bit just now. I want NOTHING to do with fucking Meta
You don’t have to fuck Meta, but unfortunately Meta will still fuck you.
This is getting way to meta for me to understand ;)
that’s… that’s illegal?
On Lemmy, it’s shown. On Mastodon, instances are given the ability to hide their blocked instances which IMO hinders people’s ability to join. A lot of the drama on the fediverse with regards to blocking is from Mastodon and similar instances.
People claim the instance you join doesn’t matter because “everything is federated!” but it kind of does. It strongly affects the people who will see your posts and even who you can follow, and if you don’t know what an instance is blocking it creates an air of uncertainty. I’ve seen instances get blocked for stupid at best and downright malicious at worst reasons, so the 4chan post isn’t inherently wrong.
I’ve gotten used to just accessing Lemmy through the Eternity app.
How would I look at the graph showing instances and which ones are connected to each other?
This site lists the ones that are and aren’t federated with Threads. I don’t know of a complete list of all the instances and all their federations, though.
Thank god it isn’t people quoting posts and adding their amazing commentary such as…. “lol”
This
Came here to say this.
>Thank god it isn’t people quoting posts and adding their amazing commentary such as…. “lol”
lol
lol
lol
lol
lol!🗿
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“Yikes…”
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They’re not quoting. It’s just how stuff is written there
E: Found the thread, yeah not quoting, just greentext.
Hmm, no, it’s quoting a post just like
They’re not quoting. It’s just how stuff is written there
>be me
>try to explain meme arrows aka greentext in Lemmy
>tfw you’ve made yourself look like an idiot
Jokes and stories are often written that way there. Greentext. Actual quote and that greentext form of writing just use the same > arrow thingy. You see it here too sometimes.
I think there’s something fun about writing it like that. Reminds me of IRC.
I was using 4chan in 2008. You don’t need to explain greentext to me. But that’s not a greentext story, it’s a reply that quotes someone else’s post, which is why it has a comment ID number.
I went and found the thread for us, it’s just greentext, no quoting, it’s the second message and just clowning on Lemmy
That’s some dedication! Okay. I’ll accept I am incompetent.
I was starting to doubt myself so I had to check, haha.
Kinda funny considering the vast majority of instance admins all talk to each other and keep up to date about problem users, features, bugs, etc.
Way less animosity than people think lol
now it’s just instances being at war, not subreddits. but fuck threads, get that shit out of here.
Hey, it’s that person with a dozen accounts to avoid bans.
As someone privvy to the insane amount of alt accounts, you’re gonna have to be more specific. There’s at least like 5-6 a day at this point.
Stop projecting your insecurities under every post
My experience, there have been probably 2-3 instances that soak up and revel in the drama (for both microblogging and Lemmy) - everyone else just blocks bad actors like normal and moves on with their lives.
A lot more of a realistic take than this place fixing every issue with Reddit, to be honest.
It doesn’t need to fix every issue. It just need to be better on the areas where it matters to most people.
yeah, no ads, no algorithms, no shitty monetisation attempts, no central authority limiting how people can access it, tons of different clients to choose from, etc.
Yeah we are all so sick and tired of that shit now. Enough is enough. They are talking about social media being over, but I think it’s just going to be more spread out. Platforms like this one will be appriciated by those of us who value the things you mentioned.
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Oh I thought we were on the shitposting or meme community.
Yeah this is a broad over exaggeration of the situation. Also using 4chan to drive a point is so over done to the point its a meme in itself.
No one who goes to 4chan in the 2020s has a viewpoint worth listening to. At best they just like trolling idiots.
It do be kinda like that
Found a problem user.
Ahh yes, the ability to have different communities with different rules is WORSE than a monolith that bans anyone who disagrees with Dear Leader…
Your views are completely ignorant to what the entire point of the fediverse even is. If you want to go live under a king that can have you killed for frowning at him … leave. No one is keeping you here against your will.
Your views are completely ignorant to what the entire point of the fediverse even is.
I think you are missing his point, that the fediverse in large parts is failing to live up to its own aspirations. Yes, of course the people who gravitated to the fediverse expect more independence and self organization, but I think people also expected some semblance of cooperation and community.
It feels like instead of having one large empire ruled by an emperor, we’re instead in a divided land ruled by hundreds of kings. The abuses are the same, but more localized.
Yes you can move on to the next realm once you make an enemy of some minor tyrant, but this also forces people to be more transient. Which isn’t amicable to creating a long lasting community with lots of engagement.
Reddit has it’s problems, everyone here already knows that. But, that shouldn’t prevent us from engaging in self criticism about the fediverse. A system that can’t be criticized is a system doomed to stagnation.
I’m not saying don’t criticize it. I’m saying even understand what it’s trying to do before you start whining about how it doesn’t work.
This was always, ALWAYS going to happen. That was the plan. The idea isn’t to magically solve all of Reddit’s problems, but to decentralize the product. It’s the same product, OF COURSE it has nearly the same identical flaws on a per-instance basis.
The entire point is the federation and choice, NOT some mystical idea of a Reddit without Reddit problems. That’s just stupid expectations.
Please don’t get worked up over a 4chan post…